[Zope3-dev] Re: The vision thing

2006-03-05 Thread Martin Aspeli
- Non-technical users who just want to crank our a web application with little muss and fuss. This was the original focus of Zope 2 and now Plone I think this is better served by applications on top of Zope, rather than trying to make the framework sit that close to the user. Like

[Zope3-dev] Re: The vision thing

2006-03-05 Thread Max M
Geoff Davis wrote: Jeff Shell has posted some thought-provoking pieces on his blog that are relevant to Jim's recent attempt to better articulate a vision for Zope: http://griddlenoise.blogspot.com/2006/03/zope-crisis-of-faith-coming-this-march.html

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: The vision thing

2006-03-05 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 3/5/06, Max M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I could probably do one that is a lot more impressive with an UML tool, Plone, archetypes and ArchgenXML. And it would most likely last 10 minutes... if I talked very very slowly. But that is not the point. YES IT IS! Do it! We need the hype! --

[Zope3-dev] Re: The vision thing

2006-03-05 Thread Paul Everitt
Max M wrote: Geoff Davis wrote: Jeff Shell has posted some thought-provoking pieces on his blog that are relevant to Jim's recent attempt to better articulate a vision for Zope: http://griddlenoise.blogspot.com/2006/03/zope-crisis-of-faith-coming-this-march.html

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: The vision thing

2006-03-05 Thread Chris McDonough
On Mar 5, 2006, at 11:34 AM, Martin Aspeli wrote: My main point is that we need to consider each of these audiences, as they have separate concerns. We need to be explicit about this and have messages and technical solutions tailored to each audience. Do we? Messages, perhaps, but we should

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: The vision thing

2006-03-05 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Max M wrote: Geoff Davis wrote: Jeff Shell has posted some thought-provoking pieces on his blog that are relevant to Jim's recent attempt to better articulate a vision for Zope: http://griddlenoise.blogspot.com/2006/03/zope-crisis-of-faith-coming-this-march.html