Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Update: The browser:page compromise

2006-04-23 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 4/23/06, Andreas Reuleaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the naming browser2:page vs. browser:publish vs. ... is not that important as the original name browser:page can be reintruduced (with the meaning of the new concept) after the deprecation period, i. e. I am thinking of having two

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Update: The browser:page compromise

2006-04-23 Thread Andreas Reuleaux
On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 09:36:37AM +0200, Lennart Regebro wrote: On 4/23/06, Andreas Reuleaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the naming browser2:page vs. browser:publish vs. ... is not that important as the original name browser:page can be reintruduced (with the meaning of the new

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Update: The browser:page compromise

2006-04-23 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 4/23/06, Andreas Reuleaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, I wonder if you read my suggestion carefully. In particular I suggested having a period where only the new (and ugly) statement is allowed, and only after that to reintroduce the old statment with a new meaning. Yes, so you suggest

[Zope3-dev] Re: RFC: The browser:page compromise

2006-04-23 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Lennart Regebro wrote: I'm -1 on this proposal. I agree, browser:page is too complex and magic. The reason for it's complexity and magic is that there are two things that clash: 1. The need to have simple and easy view registrations, and 2. The requirement that view must be callable classes.

Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Update: The browser:page compromise

2006-04-23 Thread Andreas Reuleaux
On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 02:52:14PM +0200, Lennart Regebro wrote: On 4/23/06, Andreas Reuleaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, I wonder if you read my suggestion carefully. In particular I suggested having a period where only the new (and ugly) statement is allowed, and only after that to

[Zope3-dev] Re: RFC: The browser:page compromise

2006-04-23 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 4/23/06, Philipp von Weitershausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A publishable view must provide IBrowserPublisher. We happen to call such browser views pages. This requirement and this nomenclature has worked well since very early days of Zope 3. I'm not suggesting to change that. I'm just

[Zope3-dev] Re: RFC: The browser:page compromise

2006-04-23 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Lennart Regebro wrote: On 4/23/06, Philipp von Weitershausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A publishable view must provide IBrowserPublisher. We happen to call such browser views pages. This requirement and this nomenclature has worked well since very early days of Zope 3. I'm not suggesting to

[Zope3-dev] Re: Update: The browser:page compromise

2006-04-23 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Lennart Regebro wrote: On 4/23/06, Andreas Reuleaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, I wonder if you read my suggestion carefully. In particular I suggested having a period where only the new (and ugly) statement is allowed, and only after that to reintroduce the old statment with a new meaning.

[Zope3-dev] Re: Update: The browser:page compromise

2006-04-23 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Andreas Reuleaux wrote: On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 02:52:14PM +0200, Lennart Regebro wrote: On 4/23/06, Andreas Reuleaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, I wonder if you read my suggestion carefully. In particular I suggested having a period where only the new (and ugly) statement is allowed, and

[Zope3-dev] Re: RFC: The browser:page compromise

2006-04-23 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 4/23/06, Philipp von Weitershausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is using a convenience base class really that much more complexity for the user? It's perhaps a little more typing, but it gives you less magic in return. Less magic is less complexity in a way. Depends on what you mean with

[Zope3-dev] Re: Update: The browser:page compromise

2006-04-23 Thread Florent Guillaume
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: If people don't like the 'browser2' prefix, I'm open to other suggestions. For all I care, the three directives I suggested could be on the 'browser' namespace, only browser2:page and browser:page clash. So perhaps browser2:page should be named something else.

[Zope3-dev] Re: Update: The browser:page compromise

2006-04-23 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Florent Guillaume wrote: Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: If people don't like the 'browser2' prefix, I'm open to other suggestions. For all I care, the three directives I suggested could be on the 'browser' namespace, only browser2:page and browser:page clash. So perhaps browser2:page should

[Zope3-dev] [ANN] CPSSkins4Five and CPS4/Z3ECM Paris sprint report

2006-04-23 Thread Jean-Marc Orliaguet
Hi! I've written a report on the work I did during the CPS4/Z3ECM sprint i Paris: http://www.z3lab.org/sections/blogs/jean-marc-orliaguet/2006_04_23_cps4-z3ecm-paris-sprint there is also a new zope2 product called CPSSkins4Five for running cpsskins (for zope3) on zope2 .