Re: AW: [Zope3-dev] Re: SVN: zope.location/trunk/s - moved IPossibleSite and ISite from zope.app.component to zope.location

2007-08-23 Thread Marcin Kołoczek

Roger Ineichen napisał(a):
Renaming doesn't make sense to me since in every book and 
documentation ISite is used. I'm against every beautification
which has no benefit. 


IPossibleSite -- ISite makes perfect sense to me.
IPossibleSite -- IComponentSite doesnt make sense to me.
and
IPossibleComponentSite -- IComponentSite is worth to comment on.

Regards
Roger Ineichen


Yes, ISite is already used as a well-known term for Zopers (is short and 
'handy'), but in general I just don't like the name Site/ISite. It does 
not corresponds to the meaning that most of the people from 'outside' of 
'Zope world' have, and it was confusing me at the begining of my history 
with Zope. Even now sometimes looking for a help on Web (googling ;)) is 
a little pain, couse very specific (narrow) key words used for finding a 
solution gives no results, and at the same time not using some of them 
leads to hunderds/thousands of pages with information of 'sites' in the 
meaning of portal/web_apps or others.


Personally I don't like ComponentSite as well (and probably won't like 
anything with the word 'site' inside ;)))


Component- or Local- Registry will be much more appreciated to me, but I 
don't want to vote right now for any of them. I just think that some 
other name(s) (than 'Site') should be invited/proposed, discussed and 
than used (I vote for that!), even for the sake of 'breaking relations' 
to previous name (by 'previous' I mean current term 'Site') that could 
be met in books/docs.


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[Zope3-dev] Re: SVN: zope.location/trunk/s - moved IPossibleSite and ISite from zope.app.component to zope.location

2007-08-22 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen

Thomas Lotze wrote:

Log message for revision 79117:
  - moved IPossibleSite and ISite from zope.app.component to zope.location


This is an interesting move. I can settle with the idea, but I wonder 
this was discussed... Last time I remember we were discussing the idea 
of a package a la zope.site or zope.componentsite... (Also, as long as 
we're moving things, I wouldn't mind renaming ISite to IComponentSite).



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Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: SVN: zope.location/trunk/s - moved IPossibleSite and ISite from zope.app.component to zope.location

2007-08-22 Thread Stephan Richter
On Wednesday 22 August 2007 09:37, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:
 Thomas Lotze wrote:
  Log message for revision 79117:
    - moved IPossibleSite and ISite from zope.app.component to
  zope.location

 This is an interesting move. I can settle with the idea, but I wonder
 this was discussed...

There was an E-mail pointing this out. I remember giving +1.

 Last time I remember we were discussing the idea 
 of a package a la zope.site or zope.componentsite... (Also, as long as
 we're moving things, I wouldn't mind renaming ISite to IComponentSite).

-1 on IComponentSite

Regards,
Stephan
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Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: SVN: zope.location/trunk/s - moved IPossibleSite and ISite from zope.app.component to zope.location

2007-08-22 Thread Fred Drake
On 8/22/07, Philipp von Weitershausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 this was discussed... Last time I remember we were discussing the idea
 of a package a la zope.site or zope.componentsite...

I certainly find zope.componentsite better, because the name actually
explains what it's about.

 (Also, as long as
 we're moving things, I wouldn't mind renaming ISite to IComponentSite).

+1


  -Fred

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Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: SVN: zope.location/trunk/s - moved IPossibleSite and ISite from zope.app.component to zope.location

2007-08-22 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen

On 22 Aug 2007, at 15:52 , Stephan Richter wrote:

On Wednesday 22 August 2007 09:37, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:

Thomas Lotze wrote:

Log message for revision 79117:
  - moved IPossibleSite and ISite from zope.app.component to
zope.location


This is an interesting move. I can settle with the idea, but I wonder
this was discussed...


There was an E-mail pointing this out. I remember giving +1.


Yup, found it [1].


Last time I remember we were discussing the idea
of a package a la zope.site or zope.componentsite... (Also, as  
long as
we're moving things, I wouldn't mind renaming ISite to  
IComponentSite).


-1 on IComponentSite


Do you have any reasons other than that ISite is a widely understood  
term in Zope 3 now and everyone knows about it [2] (which I  
personally think is naive thinking, given that we'd like to make  
terminology as easy as possible for newbiews and my experience says  
that ISite is anything but intuitive).


[1] http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope3-dev/2007-August/023210.html
[2] http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope3-dev/2007-August/023189.html

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AW: [Zope3-dev] Re: SVN: zope.location/trunk/s - moved IPossibleSite and ISite from zope.app.component to zope.location

2007-08-22 Thread Roger Ineichen
Hi

 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im 
 Auftrag von Philipp von Weitershausen
 Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. August 2007 15:37
 An: Thomas Lotze

[...]
 
 This is an interesting move. I can settle with the idea, but 
 I wonder this was discussed... Last time I remember we were 
 discussing the idea of a package a la zope.site or 
 zope.componentsite... (Also, as long as we're moving things, 
 I wouldn't mind renaming ISite to IComponentSite).

-1

Renaming doesn't make sense to me since in every book and 
documentation ISite is used. I'm against every beautification
which has no benefit. 

IPossibleSite -- ISite makes perfect sense to me.
IPossibleSite -- IComponentSite doesnt make sense to me.
and
IPossibleComponentSite -- IComponentSite is worth to comment on.

Regards
Roger Ineichen
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