Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Workflow UI?
On 5/28/05, Julien Anguenot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Stephan Richter wrote: > > I'll note here that I will be developing local/persistent workflow > > definitions > > for the SchoolTool project, since we really need it there in a certain use > > case. > > > > Can we have your use cases ? Stephan and I have worked out a plan to represent the progress of a student through a school as a wfmc workflow. Each grade level will be an activity. The site administrator needs to be able to set up the sequence of levels via the web interface. Down the road it should make it easy to extend and customize this process for different types of schools in different countries. We hope ;-) > Do you plan to add this to the zope.wfmc trunk ? Part of the terms of our agreement with Stephan is that the work goes into the SchoolTool repository under the Shuttleworth Foundation's copyright and licensed under the GPL. Whether or not we also release it for inclusion in the Zope 3 core is pretty much Mark Shuttleworth's decision, but I see no reason to think that he wouldn't allow it when Stephan is finished with the contract. Mark's paying for the work though, so it is his decision. Tom Hoffman SchoolTool Project Manager ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Workflow UI?
On Saturday 28 May 2005 09:55, Julien Anguenot wrote: > Can we have your use cases ? Administrators need to be able to manipulate workflow definitions via an interface online, so that manipulating XML files is definitely not an option. Also, those administrators only deal with all of this on a very high level and its the system's task to keep integrety. But I have to play around with this some more, before I can see the full picture. > Do you plan to add this to the zope.wfmc trunk ? eventually, I plan to put it into zope.app.wfmc. Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter CBU Physics & Chemistry (B.S.) / Tufts Physics (Ph.D. student) Web2k - Web Software Design, Development and Training ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Workflow UI?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stephan Richter wrote: > On Monday 23 May 2005 12:01, Julien Anguenot wrote: > >>I think it's a bad idea thinking about Zope persistent definitions at >>this stage. I'd rather work with xpdl files, read them on runtime and >>put them in a *non* persistent XPDL definitions registry. The rest can >>be managed with Jawe for instance. >>We are already thinking about an eclipse app wich could be a little bit >>simplier than Jawe for end-users on the long term. > > > I'll note here that I will be developing local/persistent workflow > definitions > for the SchoolTool project, since we really need it there in a certain use > case. > Hi, Can we have your use cases ? Do you plan to add this to the zope.wfmc trunk ? J. - -- Julien Anguenot | Nuxeo R&D (Paris, France) CPS Platform : http://www.cps-project.org Zope3 / ECM : http://www.z3lab.org mail: anguenot at nuxeo.com; tel: +33 (0) 6 72 57 57 66 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCmHg1GhoG8MxZ/pIRAtrxAJ939OkD53BhqhpPf8RJ2Ydh1t2xmwCeKhXM zq9tn85oXKXfGxIVLBSNvQw= =ve/T -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Workflow UI?
On Monday 23 May 2005 12:01, Julien Anguenot wrote: > I think it's a bad idea thinking about Zope persistent definitions at > this stage. I'd rather work with xpdl files, read them on runtime and > put them in a *non* persistent XPDL definitions registry. The rest can > be managed with Jawe for instance. > We are already thinking about an eclipse app wich could be a little bit > simplier than Jawe for end-users on the long term. I'll note here that I will be developing local/persistent workflow definitions for the SchoolTool project, since we really need it there in a certain use case. Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter CBU Physics & Chemistry (B.S.) / Tufts Physics (Ph.D. student) Web2k - Web Software Design, Development and Training ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Zope3-dev] RE: Workflow UI?
Roger Ineichen wrote: Hi Jim and Julien From: Jim Fulton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 5:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: zope3-dev@zope.org Subject: Re: Workflow UI? Roger Ineichen wrote: Hi Jim I like to work on the activity based wfmc workflow. Can I help you with the UI work. Do you need some views or something else for adding workflow definition or instances? Or is there allready somthing where I didn't see? I'm not working on a general purpose UI for this. I have a UI for it that is part of one of our products. :) To some degree, I think interesting workflow UI's are largely application specific. If you want to work on a more generic UI you might contribute to the Z3ECM project or work with Stephan. You mean Stephan Fermigier from Nuxeon or Stephan Richter? Stephan Richter. Jim -- Jim Fulton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Python Powered! CTO (540) 361-1714http://www.python.org Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com http://www.zope.org ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
RE: [Zope3-dev] Re: Workflow UI?
Hi Jim From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Jim Fulton > Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 6:05 PM > To: Julien Anguenot > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; zope3-dev@zope.org > Subject: Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Workflow UI? [..] > I assume that Roger was thinking about UI for things like > work lists or > work items. Yes, I'm looking into have a worklist and a working workflow for objects. Regards Roger Ineichen Projekt01 GmbH www.projekt01.ch _ END OF MESSAGE ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Workflow UI?
Julien Anguenot wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jim Fulton wrote: Roger Ineichen wrote: Hi Jim I like to work on the activity based wfmc workflow. Can I help you with the UI work. Do you need some views or something else for adding workflow definition or instances? Or is there allready somthing where I didn't see? I'm not working on a general purpose UI for this. I have a UI for it that is part of one of our products. :) To some degree, I think interesting workflow UI's are largely application specific. If you want to work on a more generic UI you might contribute to the Z3ECM project or work with Stephan. I agree we don't need a workflow UI on the Zope3 core for the zope.wfmc component. The zope.wfmc component should act as a Python wfmc process interpretor only. Roger, we'll certainly need UI for the Zope3 / ECM project [1]_ .. _[1] http://svn.nuxeo.org/trac/pub/browser/z3lab/ecmworkflow/ *but* since we are implementing a wfmc standard the UI doesn't need to be in Zope. Workflow editors exist : check http://jawe.objectweb.org I think it's a bad idea thinking about Zope persistent definitions at this stage. I'd rather work with xpdl files, read them on runtime and put them in a *non* persistent XPDL definitions registry. The rest can be managed with Jawe for instance. I assume that Roger was thinking about UI for things like work lists or work items. We are already thinking about an eclipse app wich could be a little bit simplier than Jawe for end-users on the long term. Cool. I look forward to hearing more. Jim -- Jim Fulton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Python Powered! CTO (540) 361-1714http://www.python.org Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com http://www.zope.org ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Workflow UI?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jim Fulton wrote: > Roger Ineichen wrote: > >> Hi Jim >> >> I like to work on the activity based wfmc workflow. >> Can I help you with the UI work. Do you need some views or something >> else for adding workflow definition or instances? Or is there allready >> somthing where I didn't see? > > > I'm not working on a general purpose UI for this. I have a UI > for it that is part of one of our products. :) > > To some degree, I think interesting workflow UI's are largely > application specific. If you want to work on a more generic UI > you might contribute to the Z3ECM project or work with Stephan. I agree we don't need a workflow UI on the Zope3 core for the zope.wfmc component. The zope.wfmc component should act as a Python wfmc process interpretor only. Roger, we'll certainly need UI for the Zope3 / ECM project [1]_ .. _[1] http://svn.nuxeo.org/trac/pub/browser/z3lab/ecmworkflow/ *but* since we are implementing a wfmc standard the UI doesn't need to be in Zope. Workflow editors exist : check http://jawe.objectweb.org I think it's a bad idea thinking about Zope persistent definitions at this stage. I'd rather work with xpdl files, read them on runtime and put them in a *non* persistent XPDL definitions registry. The rest can be managed with Jawe for instance. We are already thinking about an eclipse app wich could be a little bit simplier than Jawe for end-users on the long term. Regards, J. - -- Julien Anguenot | Nuxeo R&D (Paris, France) CPS Plateform : http://www.cps-project.org Zope3 / ECM : http://www.z3lab.org mail: anguenot at nuxeo.com; tel: +33 (0) 6 72 57 57 66 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCkf5PGhoG8MxZ/pIRAsjjAJwMkFkSbXFH0GK7Xd9cCfWzfzyLtgCghgd8 Jd5aRZr3X9yPjmmNC0qFoTk= =aKCO -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
