Re: [Zope3-dev] zope.app.session/zope.minmax

2007-07-04 Thread Christian Theune
Hi,

Am Donnerstag, den 05.07.2007, 09:43 +0300 schrieb Gary Poster:

> > However, did the tree just grow a dependency on zope.minmax as well?
> 
> Yes and no.  I made a zope.app.session 3.4 branch with no  
> dependencies on zope.minmax.  That is what the tree currently uses.   
> The tree also includes zope.minmax as an external; however, AIUI,  
> during a distribution zope.minmax will not be included, so it should  
> not cause you any problems, I hope (zope.bforest was in this boat for  
> awhile, along with other packages I believe).
> 
> However, zope.app.session trunk has a dependency on zope.minmax,  
> expressed both in setup.py and DEPENDENCIES.cfg (r77378).  So when  
> the Zope distribution trunk switches to zope.app.session trunk, it  
> will (correctly) begin to include zope.minmax in the distribution  
> (and a tree checkout will work).
> 
> > AFAICT we're still planning to release Zope 3.5 as a classic release.
> 
> Right, I asked around about that, which is why we did the  
> DEPENDENCIES.cfg thing for the zope.app.session trunk.  Was there  
> something we missed?

No, I missed that the tree grew the external and I understood that when
switching the tree to a newer release of zope.app.session, we'll be
fine.

Christian

PS: 
I'm trying to get the beta out of the door now ...


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Re: [Zope3-dev] zope.app.session/zope.minmax

2007-07-04 Thread Gary Poster


On Jul 5, 2007, at 9:30 AM, Christian Theune wrote:


Am Dienstag, den 03.07.2007, 10:31 +0300 schrieb Gary Poster:

Christian et al:

What do you want in regards to the zope.app.session changes that rely
on the new package zope.minmax?  Very briefly, the change allows the
simple zope.app.session approach to cause fewer unnecessary write
conflicts.  Is this zope.app.session 3.5dev-rXXX relying on
zope.minmax1.0?  The other possibilities include pushing it back to
3.4 (probably not, but happy to do it), and calling zope.minmax 3.4
or 3.5.


As Bernd said, zope.minmax leads its own (version) life.


Good, that's what we did.


However, did the tree just grow a dependency on zope.minmax as well?


Yes and no.  I made a zope.app.session 3.4 branch with no  
dependencies on zope.minmax.  That is what the tree currently uses.   
The tree also includes zope.minmax as an external; however, AIUI,  
during a distribution zope.minmax will not be included, so it should  
not cause you any problems, I hope (zope.bforest was in this boat for  
awhile, along with other packages I believe).


However, zope.app.session trunk has a dependency on zope.minmax,  
expressed both in setup.py and DEPENDENCIES.cfg (r77378).  So when  
the Zope distribution trunk switches to zope.app.session trunk, it  
will (correctly) begin to include zope.minmax in the distribution  
(and a tree checkout will work).



AFAICT we're still planning to release Zope 3.5 as a classic release.


Right, I asked around about that, which is why we did the  
DEPENDENCIES.cfg thing for the zope.app.session trunk.  Was there  
something we missed?


Thanks

Gary
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Re: [Zope3-dev] zope.app.session/zope.minmax

2007-07-04 Thread Christian Theune
Am Dienstag, den 03.07.2007, 10:31 +0300 schrieb Gary Poster:
> Christian et al:
> 
> What do you want in regards to the zope.app.session changes that rely  
> on the new package zope.minmax?  Very briefly, the change allows the  
> simple zope.app.session approach to cause fewer unnecessary write  
> conflicts.  Is this zope.app.session 3.5dev-rXXX relying on  
> zope.minmax1.0?  The other possibilities include pushing it back to  
> 3.4 (probably not, but happy to do it), and calling zope.minmax 3.4  
> or 3.5.

As Bernd said, zope.minmax leads its own (version) life.

However, did the tree just grow a dependency on zope.minmax as well?
AFAICT we're still planning to release Zope 3.5 as a classic release.

Christian

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Re: [Zope3-dev] zope.app.session/zope.minmax

2007-07-03 Thread Gary Poster


On Jul 3, 2007, at 11:41 AM, Bernd Dorn wrote:



On 03.07.2007, at 09:31, Gary Poster wrote:


Christian et al:

What do you want in regards to the zope.app.session changes that  
rely on the new package zope.minmax?  Very briefly, the change  
allows the simple zope.app.session approach to cause fewer  
unnecessary write conflicts.  Is this zope.app.session 3.5dev-rXXX  
relying on zope.minmax1.0?  The other possibilities include  
pushing it back to 3.4 (probably not, but happy to do it), and  
calling zope.minmax 3.4 or 3.5.


we decided, that satelite project versions are not bound to zope  
versions, it is actually an accident that the satelites have 3.4xy  
versions, but we cannot decrease them. so zope.minmax 1.0 is not  
only ok, it should be versioned that way.


Thanks.

For reference, I

- made a zope.app.session 3.4 branch in the repo from before the  
zope.minmax dependency,


- made the zope checkout use the 3.4 branch as the svn externnal,

- made a zope.minmax 1.0b release on download.zope.org/distributions,  
and


- made a zope.app.session 3.5dev-rXXX release on download.zope.org/ 
distributions.


Gary

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Re: [Zope3-dev] zope.app.session/zope.minmax

2007-07-03 Thread Bernd Dorn


On 03.07.2007, at 09:31, Gary Poster wrote:


Christian et al:

What do you want in regards to the zope.app.session changes that  
rely on the new package zope.minmax?  Very briefly, the change  
allows the simple zope.app.session approach to cause fewer  
unnecessary write conflicts.  Is this zope.app.session 3.5dev-rXXX  
relying on zope.minmax1.0?  The other possibilities include pushing  
it back to 3.4 (probably not, but happy to do it), and calling  
zope.minmax 3.4 or 3.5.


we decided, that satelite project versions are not bound to zope  
versions, it is actually an accident that the satelites have 3.4xy  
versions, but we cannot decrease them. so zope.minmax 1.0 is not only  
ok, it should be versioned that way.





Gary
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