Re: [Zope3-Users] Zope 3 Marketing Competition? (was Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Selecting a code name)

2006-02-08 Thread Martijn Faassen
Joel Moxley wrote: [snip] These are good points. I'm not convinced myself yet we should leave zope.org as is and do the marketing for Zope 2 - I think Zope.org is currently mostly anti-marketing for whatever Zope we're talking about. That said, getting community interest in making something n

Re: [Zope3-Users] newbie problems with new content-type

2006-02-08 Thread Lorenzo Gil Sanchez
Chris Withers wrote: Lorenzo Gil Sanchez wrote: c:\path\to\my\instance\bin\test -vpu --dir z:\my_root_app_dir [ traceback ] ImportError: No module named z:.my_root_app_dir Is my_root_app_dir on your PYTHON_PATH? Yes it is also, do you have __init__.py files in \tests? Yes I do If you

[Zope3-Users] Do we really want Zope 3 marketing talk isolated on zope-web?

2006-02-08 Thread Gary Poster
I'm not sure shuffling the hype and Zope 3 marketing conversations to zope-web is a good idea. I'm not trying to fix zope.org (eek), and I'm not trying to improve the Zope 2 image (though that would be nice too). I, and I think others, are interested in marketing Zope 3. As such, are we r

Re: [Zope3-Users] Do we really want Zope 3 marketing talk isolated on zope-web?

2006-02-08 Thread Benji York
Gary Poster wrote: Yes, this has been a lot of email messages, but I'd rather hang out together. Please. Just the split/cross posting between -dev and -users is annoying enough. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope3-use

[Zope3-Users] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Do we really want Zope 3 marketing talk isolated on zope-web?

2006-02-08 Thread Sebastien Douche
On 2/8/06, Tarek Ziadé <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Right, marketing is more than website things, > > I know that a lot of people here don't like to have a lot of mailing > lists but, can't we have a zope-com dedicated mailing list ? +1 to centralize the discussions on an devoded mailing list. Mar

[Zope3-Users] New User: Zope 2, or Zope 3?

2006-02-08 Thread Chris Cogdon
Hi folks! I'm starting work on a from-scratch web application, and I'd like to use this as a first-time-application using Zope. (Actually, this is not really the first time... but my previous was something really simple way back in the Zope 1 days, so... just pretend this is first-time). I'm

Re: [Zope3-Users] New User: Zope 2, or Zope 3?

2006-02-08 Thread Gary Poster
On Feb 8, 2006, at 6:05 PM, Chris Cogdon wrote: Hi folks! I'm starting work on a from-scratch web application, and I'd like to use this as a first-time-application using Zope. (Actually, this is not really the first time... but my previous was something really simple way back in the Zope 1

[Zope3-Users] Re: [Zope3-dev] Do we really want Zope 3 marketing talk isolated on zope-web?

2006-02-08 Thread Martijn Faassen
Hey, No, the marketing talk should stay wherever it is. Only the people who want to fix the marketing situation by working on building a better zope.org should go to zope-web. If you want to make sure that the new zope.org is going to work with your marketing suggestions, you'd better help o

Re: [Zope3-Users] New User: Zope 2, or Zope 3?

2006-02-08 Thread Lennart Regebro
On 2/9/06, Chris Cogdon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm trying to get started quickly (of course), and want to do it > reading as much documentation as possible, without depending on you > fine folk too much for help. From my research it seems that there's a > bunch of documentation and tutorials

Re: [Zope3-Users] New User: Zope 2, or Zope 3?

2006-02-08 Thread Egon Frerich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, there are two books, one from Philipp von Weitershausen, the other from Stephan Richter. You may have a look at http://www.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/ComponentArchitecture/ProgrammerTutorial http://www.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/Compone

[Zope3-Users] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: Do we really want Zope 3 marketing talk isolated on zope-web?

2006-02-08 Thread Martijn Faassen
Michael Haubenwallner wrote: Gary Poster wrote: I'm not sure shuffling the hype and Zope 3 marketing conversations to zope-web is a good idea. I'm not trying to fix zope.org (eek), and I'm not trying to improve the Zope 2 image (though that would be nice too). I, and I think others, are

[Zope3-Users] Extending interfaces and implementations

2006-02-08 Thread Behrang Dadsetan
Hi, when a class is augumented of a new attribute, my understanding is that the instances created with the older version of the class will not have that attribute. Will the interfaces and methods that are also updated to reflect the new attribute will fail on older instances? Is there any migrati

Re: [Zope3-Users] newbie problems with new content-type

2006-02-08 Thread wata
> > c:\path\to\my\instance\bin\test -vpu --dir z:\my_root_app_dir > [ traceback ] > ImportError: No module named z:.my_root_app_dir > > So I go to the z:\ dir and try another form: > > c:\path\to\my\instance\bin\test -vpu --dir my_root_app_dir > Running tests at level 1 > Total: 0 tests, 0 failu

Re: [Zope3-Users] Examples

2006-02-08 Thread Adam Summers
Hi, My two cents worth - A lot of time is spent saying "Zope3 is different to Zope2 -- its better" (and I wholeheartedly agree). However, there is a lot of stuff which is in the zope 2 books which is applicable to zope3, but is absent. eg: ZPT design, SQL integration. Is it possible for th

Re: [Zope3-Users] Extending interfaces and implementations

2006-02-08 Thread matt wilbert
I think you might find that zope3 generations address your requirement.  See:  http://svn.zope.org/Zope3/trunk/src/zope/app/generations/README.txt?view=markup As far as reloads go, it would be very useful, but my understanding is that it is hard to implement reliably.  My workaround is to do as muc