On Feb 8, 2006, at 6:05 PM, Chris Cogdon wrote:
Hi folks! I'm starting work on a from-scratch web application, and
I'd like to use this as a first-time-application using Zope.
(Actually, this is not really the first time... but my previous was
something really simple way back in the Zope 1 days, so... just
pretend this is first-time).
I'm trying to get started quickly (of course), and want to do it
reading as much documentation as possible, without depending on you
fine folk too much for help. From my research it seems that there's
a bunch of documentation and tutorials geared around Zope 2, but
not anywhere near as much for Zope 3, and Zope 3 seems a vastly
different beast than '2'.
Yes, it is.
So, my question is... should I stick with Zope 2 for the moment
(with its plethora of documentation), or dive right into Zope 3 and
battle it out (and depend more on the community for any lack of
documentation)? In particular, I DO want a decent tutorial to work
through to get me started (and I cant find one of any depth at all
for Zope 3).
Jim's tutorial is a very good start. Philipp's book is a bit out of
date but still generally very valuable and would probably be your
next stop. Stephan's book is usually recommended for working after
Philipp.
Or... can I use the Zope 2 tutorials to work through Zope 3 ??
Nope. They share the ZODB, and basic object publishing concepts.
Recently, Zope 2 has begun integrating Zope 3 technologies, but it's
still more like Zope 3 knowledge can be back-ported to parts of Zope
2, but not vice versa, much.
My background: I'm a seasoned python developer, and have written my
own web-frameworks for various applications.
Sounds like you are a Zope 3 candidate then. If you want through-the-
web development, Zope 2 is what you want (ATM, at least); if you want
more standard python development, Zope 3 is what you want.
This time I want to use something more 'mainstream' so other
developers on the project have something 'familiar' to work with,
or at least something that will be useful to learn. The application
will need to connect to a PostgreSQL database, and would like some
simple authentication plugins so end-users of the application can
create accounts, log in, and have data restricted based on logins.
Nothing much more fancy than that.
Sounds like a good Zope 3 app. The authentication stuff should be
custom plugins for zope.app.authentication. I don't remember where
the DBA for PostgreSQL is, but it's in the svn.zope.com repository
someplace (and others can point it out).
Gary
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