Re: [Zope] Re: Hmm... Localizer or Localizer
Peter Bengtsson wrote:
You simply didn't read Five/doc/i18n.txt
(http://codespeak.net/z3/five/i18n.html). Googling "five i18n" gives you
that as a first hit. "RTFM" is all I can say here.
Don't RTFM me! I've read that page and unless you have a PhD in
physics and indept experience of Zope 3 is really doesn't make a lot
of sense. Plus, I've got your cookbook at home :)
Urm, no, sorry, don't buy that. The docs are pretty good...
So, should I use PTS or not??
You do whatever you want, just don't come crying to us when you're
screaming in pain with PTS ;-)
(of course, it may "just work" for you, in which case you're lucky)
"The default behaviour for choosing languages in Five is the one of
Zope 3: analyze the Accept-Language HTTP header and nothing more."
This is not good enough.
Knocking up a negotiator that does what you want is pretty easy. I
already offered to send you code that does what you want...
When I send out email alerts to people in my
app, that's a wget script that kicks if off, not a Mozilla browser.
What has this got to do with anything?
(although, fwiw, url whacking is dumb, don't do that, look at Stepper
and tricker it with cron)
I have no idea what this does or what I'm supposed to do with:
Then it's time for you to read more FM. This is all explained, from what
I remember.
Please tell me there's a function or something that works like this::
def index_html(self):
uid = self._getLoggedinUID()
wants_lang = self._getUserPreference(uid, default='en')
setCurrentLanguage(wants_lang)
return _("I wish it was easier")
def manage_setUserPreference(self, uid, lang):
if lang in getAvailableLanguages():
self._setUserPreference(uid, lang)
Where _getUserPreference() and _setUserPreference() is something I'm
expected to write for my app.
No, it's not quite like this, but it is just as easy.
cheers,
Chris
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Re: [Zope] Re: Hmm... Localizer or Localizer
Peter Bengtsson wrote: HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE isn't a variable. It's an HTTP header (Accept-Language) that you really shouldn't modify. The request should be treated as read-only. To test languages, either write your own IUserPreferredLanguages adapter that returns the language you want or simply configure your browser to send a different Accept-Language header. In Firefox, you can simply do this by entering "about:config" in the URL bar and changing the setting of the intl.accept_languages variable (e.g. to "se, en"). > Either I've missed something big and crucial or there's a bug in lack > of errors or alerts. You simply didn't read Five/doc/i18n.txt (http://codespeak.net/z3/five/i18n.html). Googling "five i18n" gives you that as a first hit. "RTFM" is all I can say here. Don't RTFM me! I've read that page and unless you have a PhD in physics and indept experience of Zope 3 is really doesn't make a lot of sense. Plus, I've got your cookbook at home :) You must be confusing me. I don't have a PhD in physics and I didn't write a cookbook. That was the other German ;). So, should I use PTS or not?? No. I think I've answered that question before. "The default behaviour for choosing languages in Five is the one of Zope 3: analyze the Accept-Language HTTP header and nothing more." This is not good enough. Then implement your own IUserPreferredLanguages adapter. This is documented in my book which you may or may not have, not sure ;) When I send out email alerts to people in my app, that's a wget script that kicks if off, not a Mozilla browser. Besides, what if an Englishman is using a Swedish internetcafe-computer when on holiday; in that case I want to allow him to manually configure his user profile on my site. Sure. That's possible. With a custom IUserPReferredLanguages adapter. I have no idea what this does or what I'm supposed to do with: Nothing. The docs say that this is only for users who use PTS for legacy. You're not one of them. Philipp ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Re: Hmm... Localizer or Localizer
On 9/5/06, Philipp von Weitershausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Peter Bengtsson wrote:
> But how do you use it? I installed Five 1.2.6
> In my product's directory I created a configure.zcml that looks like this::
> http://namespaces.zope.org/zope";
> xmlns:browser="http://namespaces.zope.org/browser";
> xmlns:i18n="http://namespaces.zope.org/i18n";
> package="Products.RememberYourFriends">
>
>
>
>
>
> Starts without errors. My ryf-sv.po file isn't automatically compiled
> to .mo
Right. The Zope 3 machinery doesn't do that. Use msgfmt from the gettext
utilities to compile catalogs.
You're also using PTS's non-standard directory layout. The standard
gettext layout is somedir/LC_MESSAGES//.mo. PTS supports
this as well but Plone continues not to go standard here and set a bad
example :(
Seems awefully academic to me but if that's the standard, let's do it.
I now have a file called:
locales/LC_MESSAGES/sv/ryf.mo
> and I tried changing the HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE variable but
> still just the old default English.
HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE isn't a variable. It's an HTTP header
(Accept-Language) that you really shouldn't modify. The request should
be treated as read-only.
To test languages, either write your own IUserPreferredLanguages adapter
that returns the language you want or simply configure your browser to
send a different Accept-Language header. In Firefox, you can simply do
this by entering "about:config" in the URL bar and changing the setting
of the intl.accept_languages variable (e.g. to "se, en").
> Either I've missed something big and crucial or there's a bug in lack
> of errors or alerts.
You simply didn't read Five/doc/i18n.txt
(http://codespeak.net/z3/five/i18n.html). Googling "five i18n" gives you
that as a first hit. "RTFM" is all I can say here.
Don't RTFM me! I've read that page and unless you have a PhD in
physics and indept experience of Zope 3 is really doesn't make a lot
of sense. Plus, I've got your cookbook at home :)
So, should I use PTS or not??
"The default behaviour for choosing languages in Five is the one of
Zope 3: analyze the Accept-Language HTTP header and nothing more."
This is not good enough. When I send out email alerts to people in my
app, that's a wget script that kicks if off, not a Mozilla browser.
Besides, what if an Englishman is using a Swedish
internetcafe-computer when on holiday; in that case I want to allow
him to manually configure his user profile on my site.
I have no idea what this does or what I'm supposed to do with:
Please tell me there's a function or something that works like this::
def index_html(self):
uid = self._getLoggedinUID()
wants_lang = self._getUserPreference(uid, default='en')
setCurrentLanguage(wants_lang)
return _("I wish it was easier")
def manage_setUserPreference(self, uid, lang):
if lang in getAvailableLanguages():
self._setUserPreference(uid, lang)
Where _getUserPreference() and _setUserPreference() is something I'm
expected to write for my app.
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Re: [Zope] Re: Hmm... Localizer or Localizer
Peter Bengtsson wrote: But how do you use it? I installed Five 1.2.6 In my product's directory I created a configure.zcml that looks like this:: http://namespaces.zope.org/zope"; xmlns:browser="http://namespaces.zope.org/browser"; xmlns:i18n="http://namespaces.zope.org/i18n"; package="Products.RememberYourFriends"> Starts without errors. My ryf-sv.po file isn't automatically compiled to .mo Right. The Zope 3 machinery doesn't do that. Use msgfmt from the gettext utilities to compile catalogs. You're also using PTS's non-standard directory layout. The standard gettext layout is somedir/LC_MESSAGES//.mo. PTS supports this as well but Plone continues not to go standard here and set a bad example :( and I tried changing the HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE variable but still just the old default English. HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE isn't a variable. It's an HTTP header (Accept-Language) that you really shouldn't modify. The request should be treated as read-only. To test languages, either write your own IUserPreferredLanguages adapter that returns the language you want or simply configure your browser to send a different Accept-Language header. In Firefox, you can simply do this by entering "about:config" in the URL bar and changing the setting of the intl.accept_languages variable (e.g. to "se, en"). Either I've missed something big and crucial or there's a bug in lack of errors or alerts. You simply didn't read Five/doc/i18n.txt (http://codespeak.net/z3/five/i18n.html). Googling "five i18n" gives you that as a first hit. "RTFM" is all I can say here. Philipp ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Re: Hmm... Localizer or Localizer
On 9/5/06, Philipp von Weitershausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Peter Bengtsson wrote: > What's going on here?? Which is which? > > http://www.ikaaro.org/localizer > or > http://www.j-david.net/software/localizer/ > > They're both zope products and both with the same name. > Perhaps the author of the "deprecated" page could put a redirect or > something to the new one. Do yourself a favour and do what ChrisW suggested: use Five's i18n machinery. Comes with Zope 2.9 included. For Zope 2.8, simply install Five 1.2. It's a no-brainer (isntalling Five 1.2). But how do you use it? I installed Five 1.2.6 In my product's directory I created a configure.zcml that looks like this:: http://namespaces.zope.org/zope"; xmlns:browser="http://namespaces.zope.org/browser"; xmlns:i18n="http://namespaces.zope.org/i18n"; package="Products.RememberYourFriends"> Starts without errors. My ryf-sv.po file isn't automatically compiled to .mo and I tried changing the HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE variable but still just the old default English. Either I've missed something big and crucial or there's a bug in lack of errors or alerts. Pulling my hair :( Philipp ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) -- Peter Bengtsson, work www.fry-it.com home www.peterbe.com hobby www.issuetrackerproduct.com ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Re: Hmm... Localizer or Localizer
Peter Bengtsson wrote: What's going on here?? Which is which? http://www.ikaaro.org/localizer or http://www.j-david.net/software/localizer/ They're both zope products and both with the same name. Perhaps the author of the "deprecated" page could put a redirect or something to the new one. Do yourself a favour and do what ChrisW suggested: use Five's i18n machinery. Comes with Zope 2.9 included. For Zope 2.8, simply install Five 1.2. It's a no-brainer (isntalling Five 1.2). Philipp ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
