Thanks for clarifying Nate. That the companies respond directly to the list in 
response to the "who's hiring?" post is good in terms of being low maintenance. 
Personally, I'm not so worried about list volume because I can set up my mailer 
so that this is not intrusive. I wasn't suggesting that someone compile a list. 
I was asking if this is what you were suggesting. Evidentally, no.

But to add my one drop to the ocean, my opinion is: if you want to post a 
"who's hiring" call to the list and there is not significant opposition to 
this, you should do so. The worst thing that can happen is that someone will 
respond negatively about list traffic or something. If that were to happen then 
we could have a discussion about what the list is for. All of us on this list 
*are* the SeaPIG community so we get to decide, as a community, what is 
appropriate on this list. At least that's my understanding of how it works.

Nice observation on local dealings....

Good luck with the job search.

Best regards,

Melissa
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Thursday, August 11, 2011, 1:13:12 PM, Nate Sanders <[email protected]> 
wrote:


Essentially I'm just trying to use our small/local network to my advantage if 
possible.  I find that there's a lot of extra trust and responsibility in doing 
so and I like that.  I find that both sides of the table work harder to make 
sure both parties are happy with the fit.  With both reputations on the line, 
there's rarely as much information-hiding, gamesmanship, etc -- so while I may 
go through Dice/Monster/etc, this group will be my first attempt.

For whatever reason, I like the Hacker News model.  They just post a link 
sometime during the month called "Who's Hiring <Month> <Year>" and lots of 
companies respond.  You can then be sure that these opportunities are fresh.  
That may not work as well for an email list, though, as it could generate a lot 
of traffic when a compilation by one person (as Melissa suggests) might be 
better.

-- Nate


On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Melissa Rice <[email protected]> wrote:
To add to the chorus of specific suggestions, there is also the extensive jobs 
page at Python.org, which perhaps everyone is already aware of. 

However Nate also makes the point that SeaPIG has a jobs page which is not 
always very current. So perhaps it is worth discussing more generally:

1. Is there some utility to having a jobs page at SeaPIG? I would say an 
advantage is that the focus is on local jobs compared to the 
national/international focus at Python.org, for instance.  

2. Since the jobs page at SeaPIG is self-serve (true?) then why are job 
offerers not using it? Are they not aware of it? Not aware how to use it? Other 
problems? Perhaps someone is interested in putting some energy into 
investigating and addressing these issues?

3. Is there some other jobs-related resource that could be offered by SeaPIG 
and if so, who is interested in participating in developing it? For instance, 
if it were useful, someone could add a page to the wiki with links to other 
resources on the web for python job-hunters. Or perhaps there is already such a 
page? Perhaps jobs-hunters themselves could be encouraged to participate in the 
creation/maintenance of such a page?

4. To understand Nate's question better, I wonder if he is asking:

a. Is it appropriate to post a regular monthly jobs listing to list? [I would 
assume this is absolutely ok and one of the purposes of the list.]
b. Does someone want to take on the responsibility of compiling such a list 
each month?

So, whether a monthly jobs announcement on the list occurs seems to me to 
depend on there being some person who is volunteering to do it. Or perhaps a 
group of people might be more workable. But short of volunteers for this 
appearing perhaps it would suffice to discuss what actions we might take to 
make our community aware of the existing jobs page and make sure they are able 
to effectively use it.

As an all-volunteer, no-dues organization I think it is great for us to think 
in terms of "Here's what I'd like from SeaPIG and here's how I am willing to 
contribute to making it happen."

Thoughts? 

Best regards,

Melissa
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Dr. Melissa Rice, PhD
Full Moon Technical Solutions, LLC
14202 60th Ave, NW
Stanwood, WA 98292-4808
email: mailto:[email protected]
phone: 360-654-0709
cell: 425-923-7713



Thursday, August 11, 2011, 12:14:02 PM, Nimret Sandhu <
[email protected]> wrote:


check the archives - I thought I saw someone post a job a few days ago.

nimret

On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Sean Ochoa <[email protected]> wrote:
You should post your resume to both dice and monster, and tailor it 
accordingly.  I've had zero problems finding python specific jobs.



On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Nate Sanders <[email protected]> wrote:
I notice the SeaPIG jobs page hasn't been updated in a while and I haven't seen 
many job postings on the list lately.  Would it be inappropriate for us to have 
a HackerNews-style "Who's Hiring August 2011" on the list?

I'm looking to change jobs soon and would prefer to work with Python if 
possible.  Rather than making this about me/my particular interests/skills, 
maybe this could just be a fresh call for jobs?

Thanks,
Nate



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