Here is a quote from the JBoss data sheet - "JBoss Application Server is a standards-based, J2EE 
platform". So you can see that J2EE is an industry wide "marketing" term, not just from 
Sun. All the developers of Java Application Servers use the J2EE term and define it in the same way 
including Sun, IBM, BEA and open source products such as JBoss. The definition includes JMS, JNI, JMX, 
JSP, JTA, and so forth, as well as of course EJB.

- Paul Copeland

Date:    Wed, 20 Oct 2004 11:10:48 +0200
From:    =?iso-8859-1?Q?Endre_St=F8lsvik?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: (New subscriber) "Busy Page"

On Mon, 11 Oct 2004, Paul Copeland wrote:

|
| It is a common misunderstanding that Enterprise Java == EJB - that is
| incorrect

That is mostly correct, actually. At least it is such a -common-
misunderstanding that talking about it otherwise is just plain
non-interesting.

J2EE is to most people when you use a Enterprise Bean Container, thus
EJBs. Without that massive thing, you don't have -any- of the hassle that
J2EE stands for. J2EE is when you use the full EAR-filetype.

|  - A design with just Servlets and JCBC such as your example is also
| Enterprise Java.

I wouldn't say so at all: you don't have the Bean Container. You have only
-plain java- (J2SE), running e.g. Tomcat, and the -one- jar "servlet.jar".
This doesn't hype it all the way up to J2EE levels. At all.

And as Nic points out: the initial Servlet spec is -way- older than the
J2EE name and distinction.

Endre






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