On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 10:56 AM, _why <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On the note of sandboxing, I think Chrome has made me ditch my prior
> ideas about how I want to handle security in Shoes.  (Because that's
> the big problem here, not a bunch of little platform bugs.)


Truth.


> I still think Shoes is best suited to compete with GUI toolkits
> (since they are just so lousy) rather than to take on Flash.  But
> once Shoes is solid, I hope to get cracking on the security stuff
> and, well, who knows what's in store after that.


That makes sense, but I suppose efforts such as Chrome and Adobe AIR make me
wonder what the boundarylines between "Web" and "GUI" land will be...

Chrome seems to be fundamentally a webapp platform in its visual/interaction
design rather than mainly a 90's era browser (the ability to create
Application shortcuts, the full screen & not-really-a-status-bar layout, and
the Gears LocalCache / DB, Geolocation and Desktop file access). AIR errs
slightly more on the desktop GUI side, but interestingly embeds an entire
WebKit usable as in widgetized form.

I guess what I'm saying is that whether GUI toolkits start embedding WebKits
(a la AIR) or Chrome and co. start embedding richer 90's era-class GUI
features (a la Silverlight), the line (between what is Web and what is GUI)
seems way blurrier than it was earlier this decade, and it just makes me
wonder what newer GUI toolkits such as Shoes should "know" or "do" about the
Web at large.

On another note, I wonder what the party stance on barefootery is?! I've
built up enough barefoot volume over the summer to be able to hike decent
grade hills for a couple of miles barefoot, and I think my ligaments /
tendons / anterior tibialis etc. are better for it. Sometimes Shoooes are
the worst!! -- http://lwu.vox.com/library/post/dhike.html

_whytheluckyshoes? yes! ordinary Shoooes? nooo...

~L

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