On an only vaguely topical note: It sure would be cool if shoes had a native extension api, so people could for instance make a webkit gem that creates a 'browser' Element in the shoes app? That sure would be nice to see one day.

My legs being mentioned, woah!

I never envisioned legs as being at all webpage compatible (i.e. ajaxy stuff), but in fact someone did combine it with a python thing called Orbited and did just that. http://ism.creativepony.com/post/45253773/collins-web-chat-with-legs

I really created Legs in the hope of making something more peery for medium-level hackety hackers who wanted to move beyond _why's hosted polling based chat system and make more organic stuff, learn about networking, while sticking to established conventions on how a class is created and how methods are called on objects for all of the communications. :)

I was hoping to have a multiuser game working on legs for shoes day, but that fell through, then I tried to make a simple chatroom application, but buggyness in shoes once again foiled my plot, which has kind of left Legs a bit abandonwarey since, though as far as I know, fully functional. I think I'd be more interested in maintaining it if I had a computing device capable of running ruby and doing wifi which I could leave on all the time as a home server to experiment on, but, I don't, and I've always felt uncomfortable able using other peoples dedicated servers for such things. One day I might save up for a Mac Mini, but that day isn't going to be soon as I'm living in relative poverty on a dodgy government disability pension. I also have idea's about how a simple P2P based messaging and presence system might be implemented as a layer on top of Legs, but p2p networks are the kinds of things that require quite a lot of user's to test them properly, so for now, that is just an idea.

Anyway... I kind of veered off topic there! I'm really excited to see hackety come back to life in shoes form one day. :)

On 04/09/2008, at 8:09 AM, Martin DeMello wrote:

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Joshua Ballanco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Let's keep Shoes true to what it is: a tiny toolkit for building GUI
(Gooey?) apps. If you want to do client-server stuff, that's fine. Maybe
shoes need laces? What about Bluebie's legs? Let's not wedge
one-more-thing-over-the-web in there. What we learned from the web is that the stack/flow (block/inline) GUI design model is easy and looks good.
Great. But I don't think we need more "web" than just that.

Heartily agreed!!

martin

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