Hi rhn (???) and others,

I really wonder how many people are even unable to write proper mails.
Short: Read http://linux.sgms-centre.com/misc/netiquette.php and similar
netiquettes and follow them! It cannot be so difficult, right?

On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 08:05:47PM +0100, rhn wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 19:01:47 +0200 Tom Hacohen <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 9:07 PM, rhn <[email protected]> 
> > wrote:
> > > On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 18:33:22 +0200 Tom Hacohen <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 4:40 PM, rhn 
> > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 16:22:36 +0200 Tom Hacohen <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 3:26 PM, rhn 
> > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > One more thing is Unicode support in SMS. I daresay it's actually 
> > > > > > > unwelcome
> > > > > > > in many cases. Most mobile phones and SMS sending services 
> > > > > > > convert Unicode
> > > > > > > to plain ASCII, because UCS-2 encoded messages are heavy and 
> > > > > > > costly.
> > > > > > > Someone will say: "don't use Unicode signs". Well, that would be 
> > > > > > > fine if
> > > > > > > the only input was a dumb keyboard, but our keyboards support 
> > > > > > > dictionaries
> > > > > > > that do contain Unicode letters.
> > > > > > > My proposition is to mgive users choice to convert Unicode 
> > > > > > > letters to their
> > > > > > > ASCII approximations. I would have done that myself, but I 
> > > > > > > couldn't find my
> > > > > > > way through the C code responsible for that. I would happily 
> > > > > > > extend the
> > > > > > > settings app though.

I find using 7 bit replacements very very ugly and try to avoid it even if
typing 8 bit charcters needs twice or even more time. It is really hard,
using the German illume Keyboard is isn't even possible to insert "ß". To
enter umlauts (öäü) you have to enter them as words and need to delete the
inserted space after it, what a mess!

I once adapted the terminal layout to properly match a German keyboard but
did so in the filesystem and the next upgrade to illume made my changes
vanish :-(( I have to do it again and send it upstream I know ...

> > > > > > The remaining characters counter shows ~70 when it's a unicode 
> > > > > > message and
> > > > > > ~160 when it's 7bit gsm.

Heh, you mean once I enter ASCII text followed by a single 8 bit character
the number of usable characters reduces immediately by 90? Never have seen
this!

> > > An example sentence:
> > > "Wstałem z łóżka" -> "Wstalem z lozka"
> > > The algorithm I propose is replacing the Latin-Supplement-1 and
> > > Latin-Extended-A letters with the base ones.

The opposite "Wstalem z lozka" -> "Wstałem z łóżka" would be more welcome
but is of course not unique/wanted in all cases ...

Jens
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