On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 11:00 PM, Jens Seidel <[email protected]>wrote:
> Hi rhn (???) and others, > > I really wonder how many people are even unable to write proper mails. > Short: Read http://linux.sgms-centre.com/misc/netiquette.php and similar > netiquettes and follow them! It cannot be so difficult, right? > > On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 08:05:47PM +0100, rhn wrote: > > On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 19:01:47 +0200 Tom Hacohen <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 9:07 PM, rhn < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 18:33:22 +0200 Tom Hacohen <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 4:40 PM, rhn < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 16:22:36 +0200 Tom Hacohen <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 3:26 PM, rhn < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > One more thing is Unicode support in SMS. I daresay it's > actually unwelcome > > > > > > > > in many cases. Most mobile phones and SMS sending services > convert Unicode > > > > > > > > to plain ASCII, because UCS-2 encoded messages are heavy and > costly. > > > > > > > > Someone will say: "don't use Unicode signs". Well, that would > be fine if > > > > > > > > the only input was a dumb keyboard, but our keyboards support > dictionaries > > > > > > > > that do contain Unicode letters. > > > > > > > > My proposition is to mgive users choice to convert Unicode > letters to their > > > > > > > > ASCII approximations. I would have done that myself, but I > couldn't find my > > > > > > > > way through the C code responsible for that. I would happily > extend the > > > > > > > > settings app though. > > I find using 7 bit replacements very very ugly and try to avoid it even if > typing 8 bit charcters needs twice or even more time. We use either 7bit-gsm or ucs-2, I don't think the 8bit alphabet is widely used (I've never seen a message like this), and we don't support it atm. > It is really hard, > using the German illume Keyboard is isn't even possible to insert "ß". To > enter umlauts (öäü) you have to enter them as words and need to delete the > inserted space after it, what a mess! Indeed. > > I once adapted the terminal layout to properly match a German keyboard but > did so in the filesystem and the next upgrade to illume made my changes > vanish :-(( I have to do it again and send it upstream I know ... > You should. > > > > > > > > The remaining characters counter shows ~70 when it's a unicode > message and > > > > > > > ~160 when it's 7bit gsm. > > Heh, you mean once I enter ASCII text followed by a single 8 bit character > the number of usable characters reduces immediately by 90? Never have seen > this! > Please give an example (in a bug report) I have never encountered this behavior. > > > > > An example sentence: > > > > "Wstałem z łóżka" -> "Wstalem z lozka" > > > > The algorithm I propose is replacing the Latin-Supplement-1 and > > > > Latin-Extended-A letters with the base ones. > > The opposite "Wstalem z lozka" -> "Wstałem z łóżka" would be more welcome > but is of course not unique/wanted in all cases ... > I agree, we shouldn't mangle with people's texts. > > Jens > _______________________________________________ > -- Tom.
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