On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 7:02 AM, Terry Manderson <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm sorry Chris, I think this concern about having to 'avoid' LEA actions is 
> FUD worthy. Regardless if it occurs at the peak of the hierarchy or any level 
> underneath.

<lots of words elided>

hrm, so... LEA folk figuring things out aside, which I think is a
valid point (they are getting smarter, and they will just move their
request to the right hinge)

1) the grandparenting idea permits a party above you in the chain to
make an attestation that others would believe (presuming your current
attestation times out/expires).

2) there is already support for multiple valid ROA's for the same
resource (1.2.3.0/24 origined by AS1 and AS2 and AS3)

3) the actions available are:
  a) revoke cert for resource (invalidates roas and other bits along the way)
  b) issue a competing roa

4) both of the above are 'fixable' with grandparenting

I wasn't actually trying to frighten anyone, I was just pointing out
that if the original intent was to permit someone above me to 'fix' me
in the case of a problem in the middle layer(s), that intent could be
used for 'good' or for 'bad'. I don't see that that is an incorrect
point here. I do agree with Terry that it's certainly seems dangerous.
I'm also not sure that even without enumerating the facts in a draft
people wouldn't eventually figure this out on their own...

-chris
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