On 2015-11-24 23:35, Randy Bush wrote:
>> Every public/private working group that I have been part of that
>> discusses potential incremental roll out of RPKI based origin
>> validation gets hung up on FUD about the brittleness of the system.
> 
> universally, the brittleness that seems to concern operators is the
> hierarchy and the 'dutch court' attack.  this does nothing for that.

Indeed it doesn't solve all possible problems. But it solves a real tangible
one.

> the brittleness this seems to address is perceived by rirs, who have
> already deployed.

RIRs are expected to be higher-than-average in the certificate chain,
therefore any mistake made on this level could affect a large population.
However, the issue addressed can happen on any level and will affect any
descendants -- therefore benefits apply to them to.

> so i do not see this as solving a real deployment issue.  otoh, i do
> not see it as being highly destructive.  more of a not clearly needed
> change when there is plenty of other work to be done.

I don't think we should accept the situation that, for example, my
certificate (and ROA, whatever) covering my precious prefix will become
invalid because my grand-grand-grandparent, whom I never met, made a booboo
about an ASN they never had. Therefore I think this draft, or the concept
therein, should be completed.

Robert

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