Hi Skeeve,

Firstly, I don't think currend proposed solution is perfect, so I'm very
welcome to hear your suggestions how to fix these problems.

Certainly, just e-mail address is NOT enough for Confer registration, but
how can we set a rule in SIG guideline?
Require to identify himself/herself when registering?

Regards,
Matt

2016-09-06 9:41 GMT+09:00 Skeeve Stevens <[email protected]>:

> I wouldn't, but many others would.  Don't wait until it's been abused
> before you have to clean it up.
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> On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Adam Gosling <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Skeeve
>>
>>
>>
>> I’m sure you wouldn’t do that, though. The Secretariat could add more
>> stringent registration requirements into Confer, or use an off-the-shelf or
>> online election platform. The question would always be convenience versus
>> validity.
>>
>>
>>
>> I internally raised the potential for somebody to game the system purely
>> to take advantage of the new travel support for SIG Chairs and so, at APNIC
>> 41 Paul Wilson suggested the community might want to review the procedures
>> to make sure they are comfortable with the new situation.
>>
>>
>>
>> Just to be clear, the Secretariat has no preference, opinion, or
>> objective in the outcome of this discussion. So don’t take anything I say
>> to be an endorsement of any outcome.
>>
>>
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >>>> On 6/09/2016, 10:18, "Skeeve Stevens" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> This is worrying re Confer as I am quite sure I could register 100,000
>> people with unique addresses.
>>
>>
>>
>> We've entered a new era of bots - this would not be hard.
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Adam Gosling <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Randy
>>
>>
>> >>>> On 5/09/2016, 20:52, "Randy Bush" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>     >> [ this is address policy? ]
>>
>> No this is not address policy. The SIG Guidelines are the rules of
>> procedure for all SIGs. The proposal was also sent to the other SIG mailing
>> lists, but will be discussed in the Policy SIG as there is more agenda time
>> there.
>>
>>     >> Secondary, it can be used by fraud, like hijacking the position of
>>     >> Chair agaist the Community by inviting many persons who never
>> attend
>>     >> the community discussion.
>>     >> ...
>>     >> I would like to propose limiting eligible voters of SIG Chair
>> election
>>     >> to registered participants of APNIC Conference where the election
>> is
>>     >> held.
>>     >>
>>     >> In this context, registered participants include remote
>> participants
>>     >> who register to Confer, or its successor in future.
>>
>>     is there an unstated assumption that many persons could attend the
>>     meeting who are not registered locally or remotely?  does that
>>     assumption hold?
>>
>> The Secretariat doesn’t physically check registrations at the door to the
>> Policy SIG sessions, I guess a bunch of extra people could wander in
>> without badges. I’m not sure if we would notice.
>>
>> At present remote participation (using the CONFER tool) only requires a
>> simple registration with unique email address. We tried more stringent
>> registration procedures with the Webcasting (like ARIN) and got a lot of
>> negative feedback.
>>
>>
>>     > I would like to propose aligning Chair' term with Co-Chair's term,
>>     > which means that Chair and all Co-Chair will serve for same two
>> years.
>>
>>     could make for a tough transition if both are replaced at the same
>> time.
>>
>>
>>     randy
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