Hi Yu-ya,

Thank you so much for your comment.

Mike also mentioned about M&A in his first mail (thank you, Mike),
I'll revise my proposal to consider that.

Yours Sincerely,
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Tomohiro Fujisaki


2016-09-21 9:28 GMT+09:00 Yuya KAWAKAMI <kawak...@mfeed.ad.jp>:
> I'd like to support the purpose of this proposal itself but I'm afraid that
> anyone who want to obtain more IPv4 addresses seriously will try to do M&A,
> as Mike mentioned. I wonder if there can be better way to prevent such kind
> of transfer.
>
> Paul and George,
> Thank you for providing helpful statistics!
>
> Regards,
> Yuya
>
> On 2016/09/21 05:11, Masato Yamanishi wrote:
>>
>> Dear Colleagues,
>>
>> Regardding this prop-116, I have not yet seen any support, opposition, or
>> comment, except one clarification made by Mike Jager.
>> So, let me ask you to express your views for this proposal on the list
>> more since the meeting is reaching within 2 weeks.
>>
>> Mike> Can you advise your opinion for prop-116 after seeing the number of
>> tranfers in 103/8 by market and M&A?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Matt
>>
>>
>> 2016-09-08 15:53 GMT+09:00 George Kuo <geo...@apnic.net
>> <mailto:geo...@apnic.net>>:
>>
>>     Hi Mike,
>>
>>
>>     On 7/09/2016 8:09 AM, Mike Jager wrote:
>>
>>             This proposal does not prohibit transfers due to M&A.
>> Transfers of 103/8
>>
>>             block due to M&A continues to be allowed, based on the M&A
>> transfer
>>
>>             procedures.
>>
>>
>>         I had always assumed that anyone trying to get more than one
>> allocation of 103/8 was creating a separate entity, obtaining APNIC
>> membership, receiving the 103/8 allocation, and then using the M&A process
>> to transfer it to their original entity.
>>
>>         If this is the case, the proposal will be ineffective at stopping
>> this.
>>
>>         Does APNIC have any information on the relative number of
>> transfers within 103/8 that have happened as part of M&As?
>>
>>
>>     I have included two tables here for your reference. The numbers for
>> Market transfers are available as part of the public transfer logs.
>> (ftp://ftp.apnic.net/public/transfers/
>> <ftp://ftp.apnic.net/public/transfers/>)
>>
>>
>>
>>     1) M&A transfers containing 103/8 space
>>
>>     +------+-----------+-----------+-
>>     |      |   Total   | Number of |
>>     | Year | Transfers |   /24s    |
>>     +------+-----------+-----------+-
>>     | 2011 |         3 |         12 |
>>     | 2012 |        10 |         46 |
>>     | 2013 |        18 |         66 |
>>     | 2014 |       126 |        498 |
>>     | 2015 |       147 |        573 |
>>     | 2016 |        45 |        177 |
>>     +------+-----------+------------+-
>>
>>     2) Market transfers containing 103/8 space
>>
>>     +------+-----------+-----------+
>>     |      |   Total   | Number of |
>>     | Year | Transfers |   /24s    |
>>     +------+-----------+-----------+
>>     | 2011 |         2 |         2 |
>>     | 2012 |        21 |        68 |
>>     | 2013 |        16 |        61 |
>>     | 2014 |        25 |        95 |
>>     | 2015 |        67 |       266 |
>>     | 2016 |        56 |       206 |
>>     +------+-----------+-----------+
>>
>>     Thanks,
>>
>>     George K
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>         Cheers
>>         -Mike
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