Hi,

Thank you so much for your comments.

2016-09-21 16:30 GMT+09:00 Nitin Sharma <nitinkotas...@gmail.com>:
> Why we are so specific (last /8).

In my view, that is because how to use the last /8 block was discussed here,
and decided to use for special purpose.

Yours Sincerely,
---
Tomohiro Fujisaki



2016-09-21 16:30 GMT+09:00 Nitin Sharma <nitinkotas...@gmail.com>:
> Hi All,
>
> Why we are so specific (last /8).
>
> As per my view there should be no market transfer other than M&A.
>
> Nitin
>
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 12:41 PM, 藤崎智宏 <fujis...@syce.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Yu-ya,
>>
>> Thank you so much for your comment.
>>
>> Mike also mentioned about M&A in his first mail (thank you, Mike),
>> I'll revise my proposal to consider that.
>>
>> Yours Sincerely,
>> ---
>> Tomohiro Fujisaki
>>
>>
>> 2016-09-21 9:28 GMT+09:00 Yuya KAWAKAMI <kawak...@mfeed.ad.jp>:
>> > I'd like to support the purpose of this proposal itself but I'm afraid
>> > that
>> > anyone who want to obtain more IPv4 addresses seriously will try to do
>> > M&A,
>> > as Mike mentioned. I wonder if there can be better way to prevent such
>> > kind
>> > of transfer.
>> >
>> > Paul and George,
>> > Thank you for providing helpful statistics!
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Yuya
>> >
>> > On 2016/09/21 05:11, Masato Yamanishi wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Dear Colleagues,
>> >>
>> >> Regardding this prop-116, I have not yet seen any support, opposition,
>> >> or
>> >> comment, except one clarification made by Mike Jager.
>> >> So, let me ask you to express your views for this proposal on the list
>> >> more since the meeting is reaching within 2 weeks.
>> >>
>> >> Mike> Can you advise your opinion for prop-116 after seeing the number
>> >> of
>> >> tranfers in 103/8 by market and M&A?
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Matt
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2016-09-08 15:53 GMT+09:00 George Kuo <geo...@apnic.net
>> >> <mailto:geo...@apnic.net>>:
>> >>
>> >>     Hi Mike,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>     On 7/09/2016 8:09 AM, Mike Jager wrote:
>> >>
>> >>             This proposal does not prohibit transfers due to M&A.
>> >> Transfers of 103/8
>> >>
>> >>             block due to M&A continues to be allowed, based on the M&A
>> >> transfer
>> >>
>> >>             procedures.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>         I had always assumed that anyone trying to get more than one
>> >> allocation of 103/8 was creating a separate entity, obtaining APNIC
>> >> membership, receiving the 103/8 allocation, and then using the M&A
>> >> process
>> >> to transfer it to their original entity.
>> >>
>> >>         If this is the case, the proposal will be ineffective at
>> >> stopping
>> >> this.
>> >>
>> >>         Does APNIC have any information on the relative number of
>> >> transfers within 103/8 that have happened as part of M&As?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>     I have included two tables here for your reference. The numbers for
>> >> Market transfers are available as part of the public transfer logs.
>> >> (ftp://ftp.apnic.net/public/transfers/
>> >> <ftp://ftp.apnic.net/public/transfers/>)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>     1) M&A transfers containing 103/8 space
>> >>
>> >>     +------+-----------+-----------+-
>> >>     |      |   Total   | Number of |
>> >>     | Year | Transfers |   /24s    |
>> >>     +------+-----------+-----------+-
>> >>     | 2011 |         3 |         12 |
>> >>     | 2012 |        10 |         46 |
>> >>     | 2013 |        18 |         66 |
>> >>     | 2014 |       126 |        498 |
>> >>     | 2015 |       147 |        573 |
>> >>     | 2016 |        45 |        177 |
>> >>     +------+-----------+------------+-
>> >>
>> >>     2) Market transfers containing 103/8 space
>> >>
>> >>     +------+-----------+-----------+
>> >>     |      |   Total   | Number of |
>> >>     | Year | Transfers |   /24s    |
>> >>     +------+-----------+-----------+
>> >>     | 2011 |         2 |         2 |
>> >>     | 2012 |        21 |        68 |
>> >>     | 2013 |        16 |        61 |
>> >>     | 2014 |        25 |        95 |
>> >>     | 2015 |        67 |       266 |
>> >>     | 2016 |        56 |       206 |
>> >>     +------+-----------+-----------+
>> >>
>> >>     Thanks,
>> >>
>> >>     George K
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>         Cheers
>> >>         -Mike
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