Fair enough: what you are arguing is that one standard method of cost
accounting explains why twinkies are cheaper.  Other (non-standard?
economically suspect?)  methods, like focusing only on production
costs, or including opportunity costs (all those carrots that were not
produced and sold [and rotted] because farmers have incentives to
grown corn instead) would give a different explanation.

But let me reiterate in that friendly but direct way :) I think you
missed the point of the article: the evil in current US subsidies is
not that they cause Twinkies to be cheaper (they don't, you say): it
is that they create structures in which it makes more sense for
farmers, agro-business and consumers to make unhealthy and
environmentally dangerous decisions which may have some economic
rationality but are far outweighed by the environmental and
biological impacts. I think the major advantage of a voice like
Pollan's is that he widens a stagnant and dismal debate about the
economic dis/advantage of subsidies out of economics and into
the values (if not cost-accounting) of ecological and health risks.

ck


On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 01:52:40PM +0000, Rishab Aiyer Ghosh wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 08:25:56AM -0500, Christopher M. Kelty wrote:
> > Also, my understanding, though very limited of EU subsidies is that
> > they are primarily focused on small and medium size farms, not the
> > megafarms of the US... but that may be propaganda?
> 
> most definitely not; EU subsidies go mainly to large farmers, although the 
> largest EU farms may be smaller than the largest US ones.
> 
> goods with a longer shelf life can be sold for less because the cost of those 
> items that get spoiled and remain unsold does not need to be recovered from 
> the subset of goods that are actually sold.
> 
> to put it another way, the price a fresh carrot that is actually sold must 
> include the price of all carrots that rotted before they were sold.
> 
> so twinkies (and canned carrots) will always be cheaper than fresh carrots.
> 
> the exception is when skewed capitalisation and a skewed market structure 
> forces sellers of fresh produce to sell below market prices in order not to 
> lose their entire crop, as is usually the case in india at the level of 
> individual farmers, and is propagated upwards.
> 
> -rishab
> 

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