Dear Shiv,

 On the hygiene issue I agree that good public health inspection is needed.
I am not sure what you mean by people cannot walk on the pavements because
of these vendors-do the vendors litter, or do they take up a lot of room
with their paraphernalia and customers thereby resulting in people not being
able to get from place A to place B in a straight line? Is the bigger issue
about how little space pedestrians get in city planning efforts? there is a
fine balance between regulation and spontaneity in cities-you may want to
read Jane Jacobs, the author of Death and rise of great american cities-of
course, she advocated street vendors but that was in the north american
context. I am personally not in favor of recreating the sterile sidewalks of
North America in India but then yes, before you say it, I don't live in
India. if i had to choose a noise to shut off in neighborhoods in india-it
would be honking not that coming from hawking. on another note, has anybody
noticed whether there has been a reduction over the past decade in the
vendors who come to the door i.e subzi wallas, rabariwallas and others?

Radhika




On Feb 10, 2008 7:38 AM, shiv sastry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sunday 10 Feb 2008 5:02 pm, Udhay Shankar N wrote:
> > It's no longer possible to go get something to eat in VV Puram at 1
> > AM. It used to be.
>
> If I may launch off into one of my tangents - this area of VV Puram falls
> very
> close to the area covered by the Local residents Association of the area
> that
> I live in, and we have close contacts with the residents association of VV
> Puram of that area.
>
> Pavement restaurants, while admittedly fun for those who drive in from a
> distance,  have been unregulated and have become a nuisance for local
> residents. There are regulations governing who is and is not allowed to
> set
> up a part time or semi permanent business establishment on a pavement.
> These
> regulations are regularly flouted when no one complains, but once
> complaints
> start coming in, it may be curtains for such businesses.
>
> There are many rules that are broken by these vendors, and a few include
> cooking and selling food in uncovered containers open to the street dust
> and
> flies,  unhygienic and unsafe garbage disposal (chuck it into storm water
> drain), absence of facilities for cleaning of reusable utensils apart from
> noise and light that may be a nuisance to people living nearby. Apart from
> occupation of a pavement for an activity for which the pavement should not
> be
> used. Public space being used for private profit in other words.
>
> The evolution of such businesses in India starts with "Just setting it
> up" (Just do it). If uncontrolled we get a Gandhi Bazaar like situation in
> which the entire pavement is occupied by illegal vendors who do not pay a
> paisa of tax, but have been there long enough to get political support
> against being chucked out and being deprived of a livelihood. And that
> despite the fact that pedestrians can neither walk on the pavement for the
> vendors, nor on the street for the traffic, and civic services have no
> access.
>
> The second stage after "just do it" is complaints and agitation by locals
> that
> ensures that some areas are freed from illegal businesses.
>
> The third stage is "Corporators visit Europe to see how it is done there"
>
> The final stage may be a semblance of civilization and rule of law.
>
> shiv
>
>

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