As in: This O3 is different than that O3....because.... it doesn't have NOX products and byproducts mixed in it. Well DUH! That's an entirely different subject. The "O3" is exactly the same.

Ode, this is getting tiring...

I NEVER SAID THE OZONE WAS DIFFERENT, AND YOU KNOW IT.

If there is no Nitrogen present, it doesn't matter how you do it.
It's still O3 and doesn't have any NOX stuff mixed in.
The *NEXT* subject is about to regulating concentration.
...and the ***next*** , which methods are the most advantageous, for whatever reasons.
...and so on.

I have never disagreed with any of this either - I have simply disagreed with your claims that there is zero difference between the different methods of producing ozone, or that there is any benefit in buying one of the higher priced cold plasma machines - that, and your baseless attacks on the character of a man you never knew...

Shall I quote you? This is what started this whole ridiculous argument:

Baiting me to make me mad doesn't work, nor does switching arguments midstream to make contradictions look like a win.

Well then its a good thing I'm not the one thats been doing that.. YOU are - and again, you KNOW it.

I'm not fighting.  I don't care about winning.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight... you only care about trying to make yourself look smarter than you are.

My assertion is that you can access any of the methods pretty cheap and adjust *operation* to get what you want out of them. Just pick one or some combination of them and learn how to use it. Some may be easier to set up properly and some may last longer than others, but O3 is still O3. *Byproducts* of making O3 wrong, is NOT O3, but the O3 *portion* of all that is STILL O3.

And when dealing with a highly volatile gas like ozone, 'messing around' with it like this could KILL YOU.

Again - is it physically possible for someone to do all of this themselves? Depends on the knowledge, skills and motivation of the individual - in many cases, the asnwer would be a resounding NO.

 If you don't want to, that's another subject again.

False dichotomy... as I said, some people are not mentally or otherwise CAPABLE of building a medical grade ozone generator on their own, REGARDLESS of how much time or effort they may be willing to spend.

You seem to be casually dismissing this as something akin to 'childs play' - I assure you, it is NOT.

Being told you can't? I don't like hearing that even if Tesla "sez " so.

No one said *you* can't - why is it that I feel like I'm repeating myself? Oh - because I AM.

He was an infallible genius and you aren't and never can even begin to understand what this is Allah bout, so buy ...."this"... and defend your decision like it was a religion simply because you were "taken" for a few thousand bucks and won't admit it to yourself for fear of feeling like a fool.
 [Straight from the con mans Bible]

Ode, you just went over the edge. You, sir, are the worst kind of scum - a liar that will say just about anything to try to maintain his 'legend in his own mind' status.

Want me to back up my claim that you are a liar?

Read your last comment... then go back and read the previous posts where you accuse me of this (I think two or three times), and each time, I make it very plain that I have NO illusions about Tesla being some kind of 'infallible genious' or god - these are your words, originated solely by you, which you have tried more than once to inject as mine.

who thinks that *transmitting energy, free* [made by burning trainload after trainload of coal in his own private power plant to
go virtually nowhere ]

Thats the second time you've made a reference to this, but I don't find anything online about it... maybe you'd do better to post evidence, than just name-call...

Hey Dude, you brought it up as a comeback "flame"

Flame? Sorry you took it that way - it was a joke, really...

and the facts make it a backfire.

What facts? You seem to think your mere pronouncements are facts - newsflash: they aren't.

I implied that sales people use the name of Tesla to divert readers from using common sense....and they do.

Some do, yes - but your implication was not just that 'some sales people use his name', your implication was that this somehow acts to discredit Tesla himself.

Tesla may very well have been the ultimate charlatan - but not one thing you have said has lent any support to such a position whatsoever.

And Dennis Lee makes em all look shabby at it. If you want a REAL "show", go see him.

I agree - so what? What the hell does the fact that a con-man like Dennis Lee plays on the 'legendary' aspect of Teslas name have to do with Tesla himself, or his ozone generator design?

If you want the truth told straight, go where Tesla isn't mentioned and the facts aren't buried under a name with many different irrelevant headings "designed" to confuse the issues.

Ok - I have repeatedly asked for pointers... or is your source of this knowledge proving Tesla to be a fraud and a quack a secret? Do I need to utter the secret duck-quack before you'll give me another hint?

Then comes a justification for sales BS based on ...don't you dare question the "god hood" of Tesla, which just ain't so.
It is, in fact, questionable.

Maybe - but all you've done is make baseless claims.

Read his authorized biography as assembled by people who knew him very well.

Ok - but I am unable to find anything called 'The authorized biography of Nikola Tesla', so maybe you could enlighten me (I won't hold my breath) as to where to find it.

I did find 'Nikola Tesla's Autobiography' entitled 'My Inventions':

http://www.tfcbooks.com/special/mi_link.htm

but I don't think this is the magical text you are referring to.

"Online" is packed with worshippers, salesmen and conspiracy myths. It's there, but you have to dig a lot.
VERY short overview:
http://www.madehow.com/inventorbios/45/Nikola-Tesla.html

Nothing new there - and certainly nothing resembling 'trainloads of coal required to power his power transmission towers'...

BTW  Where did "I" call names?

Lets see (everything following was said in a [sometimes very] derogatory context)... 'worshippers'... 'worshippers/believers'... 'Tesla-Tech'... 'Tesla was obsessed'... 'Magical tesla Bullshit'... 'god-hood of tesla'... 'half-nuts' (which he was in his later years, no question about it)

No big deal.  I don't mind being wrong. That's what learning is.

Right - so, now you'll be apologizing to me for repeatedly implying that I was making claims that I wasn't (ie, that 'all' of Teslas inventions worked, or that he was some kind of infallible god-like being that I worshipped, or some other ludicrous claim)... right?

Look, I spent a week taking my car apart and putting it back together in different ways because it was detonating fit to spit pistons out the tailpipe. After doing that 50 times, I finally discovered it was a barely tweeked motor mount and it wasn't detonating, it just sounded that way. Loosening and re-tightening 2 bolts fixed it.

Wow! How smart you are! Only a week? When you could have probably paid a *real* mechanic $50 top fix it in an hour? Really, genius, my man!!

What can I say, I built myself a NEW car out of an abused junker for
> $1800 total, in a week.

Really? Guess that depends on how you define 'new'...

What a pompous ass windbag you turned out to be... I've wasted enough time on your blatherings so your email address just went into my kill file (don't bother responding - I won't even see it)...


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