Hi ode,

If you will grant me the liberty of digressing briefly, I would just like to say something before going on. I find it rather remarkable that over the years I have been researching CS it was only yesterday, after re-reading some of the information I have collected and kept on 'file', I realised that there are a few names here that appear on the aforesaid material! I believe I have passed a comment or two before about 'weeding out the crap from what I believe is credible information' so I guess I am not far off the mark with regards to hype vs crap, if it is material which came from you people originally. That cheers me up a tad as I now know that I have the ability, and mindset, to suss out the crap from the credible. I realise you have probably heard similar comments, 'ad nauseum', but I just needed to state that if for no other reason other than as a mark of respect to those here who I haven't named.

OK, Now...It was explained to me that if one uses a 'current limiter' then they will control, or alter, the amount of voltage available, or vary it if you like, and if this is so then one will not have the stable voltage passing to the electrodes. What am I saying here...well to my knowledge it's the voltage which determines the size of particles and if this is the case then one would not want the voltage to 'vary', one would want the voltage to remain 'unchanged', or stable, or set if you like, through the entire process to achieve the 'optimum' particle size. It has been established in the past, (going on my researched material), that voltage 'ranging' between 24 and 30 volts, (somewhere in that area anyway for LV setups), has been found to be the 'optimum' voltage to achieve the best particle size, (this is broadly speaking of course). As the process continues the current will increase due to the increased conductivity of the solution but when the current limiter starts to take over the voltage will be reduced. Current controls the rate of depostition but voltage controls the size of that material deposited. I may be waffling a lot of crap here but this is how I understand current control and voltage from what the nephew was saying, unless I misunderstood him. Current contol will extend the time of 'brewing' which I don't mind, (pain in the ar$e as that may be), but I don't, under any circumstances, want the voltage to fluctuate, (if any of what I said here is right).

OH, and I found your analogy rather amusing also, clear and simple and easy to follow, but amusing. Not being the sharpest knife in the draw I will re-read that so as to enable me to get a better 'grip' on how things work.

Just in closing I would also like to add that you people must be pretty sick and tired of discussing the same old things over and over but this will be a necessary evil due to there always being new uses of ICS poking their heads around your door. If you people maintain your patience and tolerance then all will be fine. Neville.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ode Coyote" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Moon phases



The voltage controls how fast ions travel, current determines how many travel.

Since they travel in water and the voltage will be removed, how fast is virtually irrelevant until you get into high frequency polarity shifting.

 Imagine a bar and a fire with the crowd trying to get out of a door.
If the fire is hot [voltage] everyone wants out fast, but the door is just so big [electrode surface area...Fire + door = current density] and they wind up wearing each others undies in the rush with two and three people in one pair of pants, a dress for shoes and socks as hats.
 Now throw in contaminants like wallets and purses.
The harder the people push though the door, the more mixed up their identities in the parking lot become and their new race when filling out the insurance forms is mostly "other"

ode


In an earlier post I stated that I was going to pick the brains of a nephew about current controllers etc but when he mentioned voltages being manipulated to accomodate them I stopped him from going further as I want a specific voltage to work with, not fluctuating just to accomodate a current limiter. I know there are explanations to go with this but that would be a whole other dialogue and I don't want to go there at the moment.


Neville.


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