Yes, when I saw that request for advice about dating a bi-polar my first 
instict was to post back, "RUN!", having had an experience similar to yours. 
But then I thought it might be instructive to see what others had to say
first. Personally, I'd still stick with "RUN!", but no-one ever heeds *that* 
advice, IME.

Cheers,
indi


On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 09:23:20AM -0500, Ode Coyote wrote:
>
>
>   After having listened to a bipolar justify his problems for years and  
> years...it became clear that he had diametrically conflicting desires and 
> denied having half of them....the half that he couldn't justify, but  
> obviously still pursued fulfillment of.
>  He was a GENIUS that wanted to be a bum, but his ego wouldn't allow it.
>  I kept telling him that so long as he wasn't burden, being a bum needs 
> no justification..and not being a burden takes very little effort if you 
> are willing to live what you want, the way it is.
>
>  He COULD "move the world" couldn't get over the idea that he SHOULD, but 
> didn't want to...so, every time he went down that path and got somewhere, 
> he'd trip himself up and feel guilty about it, then blame someone or  
> something else for falling.
>  Feeling guilty is depressing and blame does nothing.
>  He became addicted to the depression chemicals he justified into being  
> and sought the alcohol analog to keep himself there, believing he *should 
> be* stable...one way or the other...falling victim to his own absolutism.
>
>  He went to the-rapist a lot, but chose the back end of the mind f*ck...pills.
>
>
>  Mental imbalance causes chemical imbalance.
> Just owning your own "see saw" without judgement... helps a bunch.
>
> No one is not conflicted.
>  A Bipolar believes he shouldn't be, splits himself in two and goes for  
> both absolutes in turns.
> In that guys case, his heart eventually exploded.
>
> Anti whatever drugs can serve as a "book mark this page" grounding point 
> to remind you what *good* feels like.
>  Beyond that, they just enable denial and delay.
>
>  Lookie.  Humans are CRAZY.
> It's OK to be one and be uncertain who you are and what you want.
> That's called "normal"
>  My friend thought he had to be sane, that someone else got to define 
> what that was..... and he didn't like that definition.
>
>  I was headed that way, but chose unreasonable happiness as a means to 
> see the humor in conflict.
>  By brain chemistry followed right along as I did completely pointless  
> things to prove to me that I didn't need to make sense to myself.
> Specifically..Having not eaten or slept in 3 days and having no desire to 
> stay alive, couldn't find any reasons anywhere....CRAWLED to the mail box 
> to check the mail on Sunday, 4 times.
>  It's a pretty long muddy driveway and such a ridiculous thing to do, 
> that I just HAD to laugh. [Still laughing 12 years later ]
>
>  "Book mark that page"
>  What ...me SERIOUS?
>
> ....go bang your head on a wall till you can't stop laughing at how dumb  
> you are.
>  Better yet, go bash your brains out on a big fluffy pillow and don't 
> stop till you do.
>
>  Let me guess:
>  This Bipolar person is VERY intelligent.
>
> Well
>
>  I AM smart enough to be EXACTLY that stupid.
> ..NOT qualified to know what I want...half manic will do.
> Wing it and see what happens.
>
>  Since ANYTHING can be justified, complete opposites CAN be, equally  
> reasonable.
> It doesn't matter which you choose to enhance with illogic, both 
> directions operate the same way.
> ..and you don't have to BE there, to travel.
>
> Ya never know where you're going, anyhow.
>  All ya ever got is the way you walk..
>  What you can't freekin know, doesn't freekin matter.
>
>  "This" sucks...means... I believe I know where I am.
> Isn't what you REALLY want, what you DON'T know?
> Then not knowing where you're going, is the way there.
> .....so stick one foot in your pocket and get going.
> The dumber it "looks", the better it'll work to walk away from your  
> previous smart.
> "THIS"
>
> Ode
>
>
>
> At 08:45 PM 1/29/2009 +0100, you wrote:
>
>> the only thing I can think of is therapy in order for her to learn how 
>> to live with her disorder more easily and I think a good idea would be 
>> for your friend to inform himself what to expect from this disorder and 
>> also how to live with it maybe with a therapist as well.
>>
>> I would strongly recommend Gestalt therapy, I think it is a very 
>> realistic and earth bound therapy...
>>
>> Erik
>>
>> 2009/1/29 Marshall Dudley  
>> <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]>
>>> Someone I know has started dating a girl with bipolar disorder.  Does 
>>> anyone know of anything natural or holistic that might help or cure?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Marshall
>>>
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