My beautiful, super intelligent sister was diagnosed with this after two cosmetic nose surgeries. All her life she had been high strung, but not sick. She had trouble healing from the surgery and then became paranoid. Her wonderful husband had no idea she got involved with an obese security man. The man claimed he would take care of her and get her cured so she left her 20 yr marriage. Eventually the security man couldn't take her abuse. Now she is in court for damaging his property. She gets extremely angry, talks nonstop, argues, leaves 20 phone messages a day. Cymbalta made her dizzy so she was falling in the morning. Loxapene - anti psychotic - makes her anxious. So she goes off meds or self medicates w/valium or ativan. She doesn't realize how bad she's doing until she's arrested. She's been in and out of hospitals and tried to commit suicide. Everyone else is wrong. I don't know what's going to happen, and I can barely take it. Jess
-----Original Message----- From: Bernadette [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 12:47 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: CS>Bipolar disorder I have to agree with Indi. Been reading and waiting, but now will step in. My EX-SIL, is bi-polar. What a terrible disease. We all know he has it, the doctor's diagnosed him as bi-polar, but of course no one was telling him the truth and he wouldn't listen to anyone. He was fine and we were all wrong. He is extremely manipulative, even to the point of calling everyone and saying he is ready to commit suicide so that he can again get his way. Everyone else is wrong and he is not. I told him he could stay with us if he took the medicine prescribed. He was wonderful with the drugs in his system, but he stopped within a week because he didn't like the way he felt. He used every excuse to stop taking the pills. We tried another but again he didn't like the results. Finally he just wouldn't take them anymore. He can look you straight in the eye and tell you something, which we all know is an absolute lie, but he believes only himself. I know it is a foul-up in brain chemistry, but he has to help himself which he is neither able or willing to do. My daughter told us horror stories, but only having him live with us did we see firsthand about this disease. She hung in there for 5+ years, but finally gave up the good fight, and this was the only way to save herself from years of misery, and even death. She now has a PFA against him. This bipolar person struggles. He is either flying so high and moving so quickly that it is impossible to calm him down or he is so low that he needs recreational drugs to pull himself back up. What a terrible way to have to live. He may be an extreme case, so I can't say if there is a bi-polar person that isn't like this. But I have to agree with Indi - RUN, DON'T WALK. We tried to help him, so we have no remorse. Bernadette ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indi" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 12:06 PM Subject: Re: CS>Bipolar disorder > Yes, when I saw that request for advice about dating a bi-polar my first > instict was to post back, "RUN!", having had an experience similar to > yours. > But then I thought it might be instructive to see what others had to say > first. Personally, I'd still stick with "RUN!", but no-one ever heeds > *that* > advice, IME. > > Cheers, > indi > > > On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 09:23:20AM -0500, Ode Coyote wrote: >> >> >> After having listened to a bipolar justify his problems for years and >> years...it became clear that he had diametrically conflicting desires and >> denied having half of them....the half that he couldn't justify, but >> obviously still pursued fulfillment of. >> He was a GENIUS that wanted to be a bum, but his ego wouldn't allow it. >> I kept telling him that so long as he wasn't burden, being a bum needs >> no justification..and not being a burden takes very little effort if you >> are willing to live what you want, the way it is. >> >> He COULD "move the world" couldn't get over the idea that he SHOULD, but >> didn't want to...so, every time he went down that path and got somewhere, >> he'd trip himself up and feel guilty about it, then blame someone or >> something else for falling. >> Feeling guilty is depressing and blame does nothing. >> He became addicted to the depression chemicals he justified into being >> and sought the alcohol analog to keep himself there, believing he *should >> be* stable...one way or the other...falling victim to his own absolutism. >> >> He went to the-rapist a lot, but chose the back end of the mind >> f*ck...pills. >> >> >> Mental imbalance causes chemical imbalance. >> Just owning your own "see saw" without judgement... helps a bunch. >> >> No one is not conflicted. >> A Bipolar believes he shouldn't be, splits himself in two and goes for >> both absolutes in turns. >> In that guys case, his heart eventually exploded. >> >> Anti whatever drugs can serve as a "book mark this page" grounding point >> to remind you what *good* feels like. >> Beyond that, they just enable denial and delay. >> >> Lookie. Humans are CRAZY. >> It's OK to be one and be uncertain who you are and what you want. >> That's called "normal" >> My friend thought he had to be sane, that someone else got to define >> what that was..... and he didn't like that definition. >> >> I was headed that way, but chose unreasonable happiness as a means to >> see the humor in conflict. >> By brain chemistry followed right along as I did completely pointless >> things to prove to me that I didn't need to make sense to myself. >> Specifically..Having not eaten or slept in 3 days and having no desire to >> stay alive, couldn't find any reasons anywhere....CRAWLED to the mail box >> to check the mail on Sunday, 4 times. >> It's a pretty long muddy driveway and such a ridiculous thing to do, >> that I just HAD to laugh. [Still laughing 12 years later ] >> >> "Book mark that page" >> What ...me SERIOUS? >> >> ....go bang your head on a wall till you can't stop laughing at how dumb >> you are. >> Better yet, go bash your brains out on a big fluffy pillow and don't >> stop till you do. >> >> Let me guess: >> This Bipolar person is VERY intelligent. >> >> Well >> >> I AM smart enough to be EXACTLY that stupid. >> ..NOT qualified to know what I want...half manic will do. >> Wing it and see what happens. >> >> Since ANYTHING can be justified, complete opposites CAN be, equally >> reasonable. >> It doesn't matter which you choose to enhance with illogic, both >> directions operate the same way. >> ..and you don't have to BE there, to travel. >> >> Ya never know where you're going, anyhow. >> All ya ever got is the way you walk.. >> What you can't freekin know, doesn't freekin matter. >> >> "This" sucks...means... I believe I know where I am. >> Isn't what you REALLY want, what you DON'T know? >> Then not knowing where you're going, is the way there. >> .....so stick one foot in your pocket and get going. >> The dumber it "looks", the better it'll work to walk away from your >> previous smart. >> "THIS" >> >> Ode >> >> >> >> At 08:45 PM 1/29/2009 +0100, you wrote: >> >>> the only thing I can think of is therapy in order for her to learn how >>> to live with her disorder more easily and I think a good idea would be >>> for your friend to inform himself what to expect from this disorder and >>> also how to live with it maybe with a therapist as well. >>> >>> I would strongly recommend Gestalt therapy, I think it is a very >>> realistic and earth bound therapy... >>> >>> Erik >>> >>> 2009/1/29 Marshall Dudley >>> <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> >>>> Someone I know has started dating a girl with bipolar disorder. Does >>>> anyone know of anything natural or holistic that might help or cure? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Marshall >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. >>>> >>>> Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: >>>> <http://silverlist.org>http://silverlist.org >>>> >>>> To post, address your message to: >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] >>>> >>>> Address Off-Topic messages to: >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] >>>> >>>> The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... >>>> >>>> List maintainer: Mike Devour >>>> <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> Erik >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG. >>> Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.15/1923 - Release Date: >>> 1/29/2009 >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG. 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