you wrote:

> Another possible trick:
>  Lay a length of silver wire along the gum line down low so as not to
> actually contact the teeth, and roll up some Aluminum foil into a "wire" and
> lay it likewise along the gum line on the other side.
> What this does is to *make* a battery [creating a low voltage electrical
> current] with silver ions headed towards the aluminum, hopefully "through"
> the infected area...[no aluminum will come off the foil]

Don't you have to get above a certain voltage in order to get silver
ions to come off the electrode?
Is the electropotential between silver and aluminum high enough?

Dan

On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 6:36 AM, Ode Coyote <odecoy...@windstream.net> wrote:
>
>  Most of the variables have to do with the conductivity of the electrode
> electrolyte , the overall area of the electrodes and the distance between
> them...so what the "machine" puts out is of secondary concern.
> The PocketPuppy will not under any circumstances put out more than 1
> milliamp at any voltage [safety], nor will it put out more voltage than you
> put in...but it takes at least 6 volts to run the logic chips.
>  A 6 volt lantern battery will do fine, but is really bulky.
>
>  The simplest thing to do is power it with a single 9 volt battery put a
> potentiometer in series with the output, say 10k ohms, dialed into full
> resistance and connect that to one of your electrodes, the other connected
> directly..then dial up the voltage till you feel some discomfort, then dial
> it back till you don't.
> If you think you need more voltage, add another battery. [They clip together
> very conventiently]
>  More electrode area will reduce discomfort at a higher 'drawn' current and
> voltage.
>  The LED on top will give you a visual of you how much current you are
> "drawing"
>
>  Using Iontophorosis on a very deep feral cat bite in my thumb joint...fangs
> met in the middle of the joint...with silver wire electrodes and CS as the
> electrolyte, I found that barely visible in a dark room was about right. [I
> did test the actual current drawn, but don't recall what it was...it was a
> "quick and dirty, just DO IT" emergency situation with sophistication not a
> concern... "junk" soldered up fast and adjusted on the fly with "some"
> experience from making test devices for Jason Eaton of
> www.silvermedicine.org / list member a few years back ]
>  I could keep it pretty steady just by adding CS to the pads as they dried.
> [ Bite healed perfectly BTW ]
>  A byproduct of Iontophorosis..the direct injection of ions through the skin
> [ vs  being the "goal" ] is electrification.
>
>  For more precision, using a digital volt/ammeter [DVM] will work quite
> well.  They can be had very cheaply from www.harborfreight.com.
> [ That meter itself might even work set on Ohms and using its' output to do
> DC electrification and current draw can be calculated with the ohm readout]
> Further adjustments can be made by whetting the contact pads more, or
> less..and/or...using more, or less electrode area.
>  An electrode should be placed on opposite sides of the area to be treated.
>  Current draw can also be controlled by distance, so one electrode close to
> the area being treated and moving the opposite one further away, will run
> less current through the treated area.
> I think that simply finding a "comfort zone" is sufficient.  If you feel it,
> back off some.
>
> To adjust max current, change the value of R2. The lower the value, the
> higher the current. 100 Ohms puts out about 6 milliamps and that's about the
> max so it won't get warm while running [but it can actually run pretty hot
> and not hurt it at around 20 milliamps], so use a 100 Ohm resistor in series
> with a 10K pot to get an adjustment range between .5 milliamps and 6
> milliamps and go to a 100K - 500k pot to get into the microamp ranges.
> It takes only 6 milliamps across the heart to stop it..but it's not at all
> likely that you can "draw" 6 mills at under a hundred or so volts.
>
> To adjust frequency, change the value of R3 and/or remove or replace any of
> the 470 uF capacitors.  The lower the value and/or the less capacitance, the
> faster the frequency. It's set to about one polarity change  every 3
> minutes.  It should handle up to around 27 megahertz...maybe more but
> probably not more than 40 mH unless the TTL switching transistors are
> changed to faster ones. [I haven't actually tested max frequency, but the
> switch rate of the inverter/timer chip is around 11 nanoseconds and the
> transistors at around 27 nanoseconds..someone better at electronics than me
> can figure that one out. ]
> The 3 minute polarity shift rate should do fine to limit reddening and
> itchiness of skin as prolonged DC tends to do, but you might want it faster
> or want to use it as a "Tens" or Rife devise.
>
> To get straight DC, install a switch or a jumper across the 2 position "SW"
> next to the power input socket.
>
> To get pulsed DC, clip one of the outside LED leads.
>
> Personally, I think that the DC "offsets" found in the Clark devise have no
> actual function beyond giving you a break to "cool off", but are an artifact
> of a rather cheap pulse width motor control type of circuit.
>
>  For the person with the bad tooth.
>  What "I" would do [quick and dirty] is use one of the PocketPups electrode
> loops wrapped around the line of teeth, [convenient *U* shape] connected to
> one of the PocketPups output leads and the other placed under the jaw
> wrapped in gauze soaked with CS..powered by one 9 volt battery.
>
> If possible, I'd have the long end of the electrode sticking out of my mouth
> so as not to inject whatever plating metal ion that is on the alligator clip
> into my blood stream, but..when in **that kind of pain**, a little of
> "whatever" isn't the main concern.
>
> PS  It wouldn't be good to make direct contact with mercury fillings.
>
>  "Quick and Dirty"......FLASH!!!
>
> Another possible trick:
>  Lay a length of silver wire along the gum line down low so as not to
> actually contact the teeth, and roll up some Aluminum foil into a "wire" and
> lay it likewise along the gum line on the other side.
> What this does is to *make* a battery [creating a low voltage electrical
> current] with silver ions headed towards the aluminum, hopefully "through"
> the infected area...[no aluminum will come off the foil]
>
>  If you have mercury/silver fillings and bite some foil, you ARE aware of
> the voltage...so...make it using the "right" materials and direct it to
> where it *should* go.
>
> ode
>
>
> At 10:11 AM 2/23/2009 -0600, you wrote:
>
>> Well, I have built a Godzilla (or 2 :-) but am interested in how I can use
>> my new Pocket Puppy to do the same type of thing.  So if you would put
>> instructions here, for all of us, that would be great!
>>
>> Samala,
>> Renee
>>
>> -------Original Message-------
>>
>>  The "PocketPuppy" circuit board can be easily modified to give you from a
>> few  microamps to 6 milliamps, straight or pulsed DC or full square wave
>> AC
>> at a frequencies from a very slow 3 minutes per pulse to several
>> megahertz.
>> [Doesn't do offsets]
>>
>> ...tell me what you want.
>>
>>
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