Yes, it is antimicrobial and is used in many antimicrobial coatings. From what I have read it's low soluability in water causes it to have a reduced effectiveness in the blood. As you may have read in previous posts, I have had an interest in silver citrate because you can make a very concentrated solution of it. But the high concentration can only be achieved by dissolving the silver citrate in a citric acid solution. Silver citrate also has a low soluability in water. (But it is still 10 times higher than silver chloride.) However it is very effective topically and I think that the solution you use is too. Also remember that if the silver ions and salt immediately recombine to form silver chloride you should see the silver chloride precipitate out of solution. Plus, you still have the silver particles that can pass through the mucous membrane as well. Personally I do not use salt in an EIS nasal spray. - Steve N
________________________________ From: Pat <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Sun Aug 23 13:35:33 2009 Subject: Re: CS>Silver/Autism/Safety Silver Chloride still kills the germs, though, right? When you mix a sinus rinse with colloidal silver and a salt, that's what you'd get. My daughter does this once or twice every day but isn't blue yet, either. Pat ________________________________ From: "Norton, Steve" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 2:05:11 PM Subject: Re: CS>Silver/Autism/Safety There is a difference between in vitro and in vivo performance of ionic silver. Ionic silver should always perform better than silver particles in in vitro tests because a significant portion of the ionic silver has not been converted to silver chloride by the stomach acid as it would in vivo. Depending on how you perform the tests you can have them confirm just about anything you want. Steve Foss first pointed that out to me but I didn't have enough of an understanding at that time to understsnd it all. I am not saying that anyone biased some tests but how one views the ionic vs particles issue can mislead them if they are not careful. Admittedly my 60/40 ionic to particle ratio is just a guess but I think it might be conservative on the ionic and not the particle side. - Steve N ________________________________ From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Sun Aug 23 12:46:51 2009 Subject: Re: CS>Silver/Autism/Safety I have been lead to believe that 80% ionic to 20% colloidal is the best percentages to have. Trem has provided an article which claims that Natural Immunogenics (who make Argentyn 23) actually did in vitro tests that proved that ionic is the most efficaceous. This is the mix that most of us make on this list I believe, to consume on a regular basis that is. This is the mix that works for me and all the other people I supply. I think that Argentyn 23 is outrageously expensive too though. dee On 23 Aug 2009, at 17:04, Norton, Steve wrote: Argentyn 23 is a fine ionic silver but I would not consider it the best value. First, the price is $36 for 8 oz. IMO that is high. You can make your own for about 1/100 of that. Second, the high ionic content, 95%, is too high. Some ionic content is very desireable but, again IMO, you should try to keep it to less than 60% if possible. If you make your own EIS you can increase the percentage of silver particles to as much as 60 % by adding a small amount of hydrogen peroxide to the EIS you make. I should let you know that ionic silver vs silver particles is a controversial subject. If you choose to buy colloidal or ionic silver rather than make your own several other good alternative sources for colloidal silver (high silver particle content) are: * Utopia Silver - $24 for 8 oz @ 20 ppm * Mesosilver - $25 for 8 oz @ 20 ppm - Steve N ________________________________
