There is a difference between in vitro and in vivo performance of ionic silver. 
Ionic silver should always perform better than silver particles in in vitro 
tests because a significant portion of the ionic silver has not been converted 
to silver chloride by the stomach acid as it would in vivo. Depending on how 
you perform the tests you can have them confirm just about anything you want. 
Steve Foss first pointed that out to me but I didn't have enough of an 
understanding at that time to understsnd it all. I am not saying that anyone 
biased some tests but how one views the ionic vs particles issue can mislead 
them if they are not careful. 
Admittedly my 60/40 ionic to particle ratio is just a guess but I think it 
might be conservative on the ionic and not the particle side. 
- Steve N

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From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] <[email protected]> 
Sent: Sun Aug 23 12:46:51 2009
Subject: Re: CS>Silver/Autism/Safety 


I have been lead to believe that 80% ionic to 20% colloidal is the best 
percentages to have.  Trem has provided an article which claims that  Natural 
Immunogenics (who make Argentyn 23) actually did in vitro tests that proved 
that ionic is the most efficaceous.  This is the mix that most of us make on 
this list I believe, to consume on a regular basis that is.  This is the mix 
that works for me and all the other people I supply.  I think that Argentyn 23 
is outrageously expensive too though. dee

On 23 Aug 2009, at 17:04, Norton, Steve wrote:


        
        
        
        Argentyn 23 is a fine ionic silver but I would not consider it the best 
value.
        
        First, the price is $36 for 8 oz. IMO that is high. You can make your 
own for about 1/100 of that. 
        
        Second, the high ionic content, 95%, is too high. Some ionic content is 
very desireable but, again IMO, you should try to keep it to less than 60% if 
possible. If you make your own EIS you can increase the percentage of silver 
particles to as much as 60 % by adding a small amount of hydrogen peroxide to 
the EIS you make. I should let you know that ionic silver vs silver particles 
is a controversial subject. 
        If you choose to buy colloidal or ionic silver rather than make your 
own several other good alternative sources for colloidal silver (high silver 
particle content) are:
        
        * Utopia Silver - $24 for 8 oz @ 20 ppm
        * Mesosilver - $25 for 8 oz @ 20 ppm
        
        - Steve N
        

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