Marshall,

One site said to mix baking soda with apple cider vinegar.  Would this be as
good a substitute or is the mixture with citric acid much better? I'd
appreciate your opinion.

Sharlene

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 6:20 AM, Marshall Dudley <[email protected]>wrote:

> jr orrilia wrote:
>
>> Hi Marshall.  Could I ask you how much baking soda and how much citric
>> acid?  Also, what does citric acid do.  I will be doing the same.    Orrilia
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> The citric acid changes the sodium bicarbonate to sodium citrate.  All of
> the bubbles that leave would be generated in your body and have to be
> expelled by the lungs or burping if the acid is not added, and the CO2 in
> the blood will acidify it, at least short term.  But of more concern is that
> baking soda will reduce your stomach acid, forcing the body to make more. If
> you continue to do this long term, it will be like taking antacids
> continually, which can result in the either insufficient acid to properly
> digest your food when taken with the water, or excessive acid when not
> drinking the water resulting in heartburn.  Also it is much easier for the
> body to deal with sodium citrate than sodium bicarbonate.
>
> Lets take a look at what happens when you take sodium bicarbonate:  When it
> hits the stomach it raises the pH of the stomach and becomes salt and CO2.
>  What CO2 is not absorbed into the blood to be expelled by the lungs is
> belched.  The body immediately starts making more HCl to replace that which
> was neutralized by the sodium bicarbonate.  The biproduct of the HCl
> production is sodium bicarbonate again, but in the blood this time.  Now the
> sudden increase in pH has to be counteracted by withholding CO2 in the blood
> to bring the pH back to the normal range, or expelled by the kidneys wasting
> it.  Increased CO2 in the blood makes one tired and weary and high pH levels
> in the urine can promote an infection..
>
> Now with sodium citrate we get the following:  There is no reaction in the
> stomach, the pH of the stomach only changes slightly (like drinking plain
> water).  The sodium citrate moves into the blood stream as sodium citrate.
>  Now sodium citrate is a salt and has a pH of 7, and does not effect the
> blood pH at all (actually it will lower it very slightly due to the
> buffering effect which makes acids more alkaline and alkalines more acid).
>  When the body needs a way to alkalize itself, any fat it burns, or any food
> you eat, it will metabolize the sodium citrate first, instead of pulling
> calcium from your bones or robbing other areas of the body.  When sodium
> citrate is metabolized it produces sodium sodium bicarbonate.  But the thing
> is, the conversion is at the body's request and need, and it will only
> convert it as it needs to to maintain pH.
>
> This is a repost of what I posted before:
>
> I was unable to find sodium citrate locally, so I did make my own. Turned
> out to be very easy.
>
> 1. Put one level tablespoon of baking soda and citric acid powder each in
> an 8 to 12 ounce glass
> 2. Add about 2 ounces of water (1/4 full for the 8 oz glass). (if you put
> more than this it might foam over)
> 3. let foam until it diminishes, then stir. Continue stiirring until
> foaming diminishes
> 4. add another 2 oz of water, that is make an 8 oz glass half full.
> 5. stir until foaming stops.
>
> You should have near 100% sodium citrate, with a little citric acid left
> over. The water should be crystal clear. If you taste it it should have a
> slightly sour taste.  If you take the pH it should be about 6.5 to 6.8 or
> so.  Now add a little baking soda ( 1/4 teaspoon) and stir until foaming
> stops. Continue this until no foaming occurs after adding the soda (or the
> only bubbles you are getting are from the CO2 dissolved in the water).
>  (this occurred on the 3rd addition for me) If you taste it it should taste
> salty, but not sour or bitter. If you test the pH it should measure between
> 7.0 and 7.2.   It is not imperative that you get it alkaline unless you are
> adding pH drops to it, and since pH drops are nothing more than diluted MMS,
> if you leave it acid it will activate the MMS.
>
> You should have about 1 1/2 tablespoons of sodium citrate now.  To alkalize
> the water, I have been putting one ounce of this solution into a gallon of
> water, actually putting the full amount into my 5 gallon container.  If you
> taste the water after it is added, you can detect a slight amount of mineral
> taste, but it is very slight and not objectionable at all, at least to me.
>
> I would highly suggest taking a calcium, magnesium and potassium supplement
> if you are drinking this water to be sure and maintain proper electrolyte
> balance.
>
> BTW, my urine pH when I tested it this morning was between 7.0 and 7.2,
> which is considered optimal, after drinking the water all day yesterday.
> Even my wife, who has had diabetes for 2 decades is testing optimal now.
> Unfortunately I do not have a baseline though since I did not get the
> testing paper until last night.  I would watch my pH very carefully, if it
> gets too alkaline, then you need to use less in your water.
>
> Also I am thinking about using the undiluted solution in place of salt when
> cooking. That would be pretty cool, an alkalizing salt.
>
>
> Marshall
>
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