I like your attitude, Neville.
JDM


-----Original Message-----
From: Neville Munn [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 9:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: CS>natural blood thinners . . .


Just a layman's perspective so don't go off on a
wild tangent and think I'm having a go at you
here...


I'd rather take aspirin that Warfarin, which is
rat poison, and as I understand it, 'thinning the
blood' to a point whereby the heart just ceases to
function, bleed to death if you like.  Aspirin has
been used since Adam wore short pants.  Quantity
or amount taken according to the circumstance.
While 'blood thinner' may not be politically
correct at least it's globally recognised and
understood as preventing clots without having a
doctorate or degree to understand the why's and
wherefore's <g>.


I'm not smart enough to understand the
complexities of what it does or how it works, and
I certainly wouldn't wade through a heap of human
biological jargon and terminologies to try to
understand it, if it worked for my ancestors it'll
work for me, that's about all I need to know.



A while ago here in Australia there was a media
campaign trying to put people off taking aspirin
for just such a purpose...I wonder why that would
be {nudge, nudge, wink, wink, say n'more}...Why
self medicate and possibly cause more harm than
good when the establishment to do it for you <g>.
If I'm going to die, by and large, I'd rather it
be by my own hand than someone else's.



Again, I'm not having a go here, just voicing a
layman's perspective {friend, mate, pal, buddy}.


N.



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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 16:48:30 -0800
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: CS>natural blood thinners . . .
To: [email protected]


contrary to popular belief, "blood thinners" do
not THIN the blood
taking blood "thinners" (eg aspirin, coumadin,
etc.) do not thin the blood


what blood "thinners" do is either impair platelet
functioning or impair clotting factor
production/function
taking blood "thinners" does NOT make blood
thinner (more watery)
increasing fluid intake can reduce dehydration,
reducing hematocrit, which is the lab number for
liquid to solid ratio of the blood -
a lower hematocrit # translates into more "liquid"
blood with less solid (blood cells) in it


many health care professionals misle ad the public
by using the words "blood thinner" and
in my experience many health care professionals
don't even understand the concept themselves


there is likely a limit to how "watery" one can
make blood,
as the kidneys are designed to regulate the amount
of water in the body via various feedback loops
...
damaged kidneys can impair body water regulation
(as can damage to the endocrine system
which is involved in messaging body hydration
throughout the organism


please folks, use the term "blood thinning"
accurately
do some research; google platelet function (such
as platelet aggregation) and google clotting
factors or clotting factor cascade


GS



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From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2013 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: CS>natural blood thinners . . .



Vit E helps thin blood

Edith
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Nave <[email protected]>
To: silver-list <[email protected]>
Sent: Mon, Mar 4, 2013 3:21 pm
Subject: Re: CS>natural blood thinners . . .


Note that Vitamin K helps with blood clotting, not
blood thinning...

Dan

On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Judy Knowlton
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Check on google, foods to AVOID on coumadin
> Foods rich in Viamin K
> Vitamin K is abundant in green tea, leafy
greens, such as Swiss chard,
> kale, parsley and spinach, broccoli and
cauliflower, Brussels sprouts,
> liver, soybean oil and wheat bran. Fermented
dairy, including yogurt,
> cheeses, and fermented soy including miso and
natto,
> garlic
> dried fruit
> fish
> leafy green vegitables
>  alcohol
> natokinase
>
>
> Vitamin K is abundant in green tea, leafy
greens, such as Swiss chard,
> kale, parsley and spinach, broccoli and
cauliflower, Brussels sprouts,
> liver, soybean oil and wheat bran. Fermented
dairy, including yogurt,
> cheeses, and fermented soy including miso and
natto,
>
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