----- Original Message -----
From: "Marshall Dudley" <[email protected]>

> Ivan Anderson wrote:
>
> > I have asked to be informed of any reason to not believe what I have
> > written is true, you were not among the one (hello Roger) that did
so.
> >
>
> I base my assumptions on the fact that silver does not react with HCL
at
> room temperature.  I went throught is before, trying to get CS to
become
> silver chloride so that I could measure it with a spectrophotometer,
and
> found CS to be inert in HCL. It was a total failure.  At that time I
wanted
> them to react, but was unable to get them to do so.  I will try it
again,
> and measure the ph of the HCL.

We have been down this road before.
I believe that the reason you could not get a reaction with HCl and most
importantly with HNO is because you already have ionic silver, that is
clumps of silver ions. You can't ionise something that is already
ionised.
I do believe that particles of metalic silver will be ionised in the
acid stomach environment, and that clumps of ions will be broken apart,
but I doubt that at low pH that silver will combine with Cl- to form the
silver cloride molecule, much in the same way that silver nitrate in
solution is not combined in molecules but exists as free silver ions and
free nitrate ions.

> >
> > Here is one reference I posted a month or so ago
> > http://www.chiro.org/places/minerals.shtml
> >
>
> So you are taking a site that says:
>
> Silver:   questionable as a single-dose antibiotic, consistent intake
of
> silver accumulates in the blood-forming organs - spleen,
> liver, and bone marrow-, as well as the skin, lungs, and muscles.
Serious
> pathologies have resulted: blood disorders, cirrhosis,
> pulmonary edema, chronic bronchitis, and a permanent skin condition
known as
> argyria, to name just a few. Silver is better left
> in the ancient lakes, and in tableware.
>
> as the gospel truth?  I do however agree with what that site says
about the
> minerals it is talking about needing to be ionized first and that
requiring
> an acid ph.  But silver is not in the list of what they are talking
about.
> Silver is different, it, like gold, is a noble metal and does not
react
> easily with anything but hydorgen sulfide at room temperature.

So the guy doesn't know much about the wonders of colloidal silver, but
he does know about the absorption of minerals.
What he says about the effects of silver is documented, it just requires
mega doses to achieve. Silver is less reactive than most minerals it is
true, but it is not like gold as evidenced that little free silver is
found in the ocean.

> > and you might like to read part of a message (below) I sent in
July...
> > you must have missed it.
> >
> > I didn't come to this position lightly...it was only after 6 mths of
> > biochem and biology lectures that my suspicion firmed...and it seems
to
> > me that we may as well hold the correct method of silver absorption
> > because it is fundamental to understanding the anticeptic action and
> > fate of silver in the body. If you can refute this mechanism please
do
> > so, its no problem to me, I just want to be able to make judgements
> > about silver generating doses and so on from a factual base.
> > (see below)
>
> Have you tried mixing CS with HCL?  Is there any reason to believe
that it
> would behave differently inside the stomach than in a bottle?

No I have had no reason to. I don't realy know...but I guess the
reaction would be similar.

> Marshall

Ivan.


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