Hi Catherine, I think it would be worthwhile for you to clarify and delimit your blanket approval of "this" to one or several of the statements and/or dependent implications Frank Key makes in the first paragraph you quoted; you can nit-pick it as well as I, the first three sentences alone (not in isolation, but merely) are a minefield of invalid assertion and implication. Further, I am curious as to the validity of whatever tests were done to show the presence or absence of silver ions in the bloodstream: where in the bloodstream, after what period of time, detected by what methodology of what sensitivity, after how long a period of rest or analysis of the sample, replicated or not, peer reviewed or not. Further, what is the record on the presence of silver compounds such as the much maligned silver chloride following ionic silver injection into the blood stream, or other tissues, and so on. Perhaps Frank can cast some light on these questions for you and me in his proof of the deceitfulness of petri dish research(ers), perhaps not. After all, there is the well documented work of Dr. R.O. Becker who introduced ionic silver directly into tissues to eliminate bacterial infections, did it simply turn into silver chloride, and everyone forgot to mention that, or is the sea of other fluids of our body so drastically deficient in their hungry chloride ion concentration? What about Argentum Medical corporation's work with both metallic and ionic "colloidal" silver? The much maligned petri dish evidence was used by them in their development of eminently successful in vivo therapies for which they have acquired FDA approval as well as patents; just a fluke of luck for bumbling fools, or are they perhaps deliberately misleading themselves as well as all of us? I think not. The record speaks well for the beneficial effects of ionic "colloidal" silver in vivo, blood-borne or otherwise, and for the use of in vitro research protocols. The same cannot be said for Mr. Key's rhetorical flamboyance.
Take care, Malcolm


At 07:59 PM 3/1/03 -0800, you wrote:

Frank said:

<<Killing power of ionic silver in a Petri dish may be interesting but it
has nothing what so ever to do with how it will behave inside the human
body. All such studies fail to ever mention that fact, and in fact leave the
reader with the false impression that it would work just as well inside the
body. Nothing could be farther from the truth. If the studies were intended
to be an honest representation of how ionic silver can kill pathogens in the
body, the environment of the Petri dish would have to simulate conditions in
the body. Without the chloride being present their in the test environment,
the test is scientifically flawed and misleading in the extreme>>


**  I have to agree with Frank on this.


  I'm a big fan of and advocate for CS.  But I think that each time claims
are made that are unfounded the more ammunition we give to those who wish to
shut down the CS business.

   I'm not saying others were being intentionally deceitful, but were more
likely repeating misinformation they heard.  I find this almost as offensive
as being deceitful. IMO,  it represents intellectual laziness/disinterest
with  more interest in selling than in selling something appropriate for a
particular use.


Regards,
Catherine




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