Dear Malcolm,
You said:
<<What, then, is the point of even making Petrie dishes, much less making
the
hundreds of thousands of researches within the medical field alone which
employ petrie dish experiments to explore the possible outcomes of various
hypotheses?
Should Petrie dishes be sold only to non-medical users?
Are all these researchers deceitful, or only those exploring the medical
applications of various forms of finely divided silver? Is the deceit
contained in the lack of specificity which the colloidal silver researchers
exhibit in presenting their clearly labelled in vitro experiments, or is it
contained in the implication that they fail to specifically state (in
contrast to the more relaxed requirements imposed on the rest of the
medical research community) That THEIR research is of course totally
inapplicable to any immediate human therapeautic concerns? Would THAT
statement be more accurate, or just more consonant with Mr. Key's agenda?
Perhaps, rather, the deceit is to be found in the rhetoric of Mr. Key's
categorically emphatic remarks: "...nothing what so ever ..." and: "All
such studies fail to ever mention that fact ..."
Let's proceed to the next statement, directly following the above: ("...
and in fact leave the
>reader with the false impression that it would work just as well inside
the
>body. Nothing could be farther from the truth.")
Which readers are left with what false impression? Well, I'll coin the
phrase; "All the world are fools, excepting thee and me, and I sometimes
have my doubts about thee."
If you find this offensive and demeaning, consider how the rest of "...the
reader[s] ..." might also feel, and quite justifiably so.>>
** **
A Petri dish is a place to begin, of course. What Frank said, and I agree
with, is
that what happens in a Petri dish cannot be touted as evidence of efficacy
in humans, yet, this happens with CS and ionic silver. Whjat we find in
Petri dishes
gives us a clue to the next step only. What we find in vivo is often
different from what was found in vitro. Any scientist will tell you that.
As far as me finding this "offensive and demeaning", no, I don't. I'm
actually having difficulty understanding why some people appear so upset.
You said:
<<Before I leave the rhetorical quagmire of Mr. Key's statement, I'd invite
you to comment on his remark that: "Nothing could be farther from the
truth...," in the context of the studies referred to, rather than the
context of Mr. Key's evaluation of all us readers' intellectual
ineptitude. In other words, do the in vitro studies indicating the high
efficacy of ionic and/or colloidal silver in Petrie dishes really establish
their total, categorical inapplicability to conditions of human
disease? That would indeed turn the research community on it's collective
head!>>
** I believe you misunderstood Frank's statement, or perhaps it could be
more clearly stated. The gist of it was that you cannot re-create the human
condition in a Petri dish; therefore, that which you find in a Petri dish
ccannot be assumed to be
transferable in vivo.
You said:
<<You may find Mr. Key to be an honest, helpful and dedicated person in his
response to your queries, and indeed he may well be, but his rhetoric
SUCKS!! That flaw, if no other, calls ALL of his remarks into serious
doubt.
My concern here is not to use your posts as once-removed springboards to
attack Mr. Key's, rather I am dismayed that someone with your high
dedication and great research capacity would endorse, and thus give
greater weight to, such self-serving cant.>>
** I really don't see it that way, Malcolm. The problem here is that
Frank has a method of making CS that no one else has. He came to make CS
this way because of his scientific findings. The quagmire now is that when
he presents
what he has found in the lab and has the only product that is aligned with
these findings, people get nervous because they don't have access to the
technology.
then, he gets accused of being self-serving.
I think Frank has attempted to acknowledge the usefulness of ionic silver
several times throughout this discussion and has not insulted anyone, though
he's been insulted several times.
When I spoke with Frank in 2001, I took about an hour and a half of his
time.
He patiently answered all my questions never once attempted to sell
Mesosilver to me. In fact, he told me a couple of ways to make ionic silver
at home.
Please show me the rhetoric and self-serving statements. If the
statements are true, "self-serving" is moot.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this, Malcolm.
Regards,
Catherine
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