July 8th NST "current limited" CS results. Note; In the past when I have provided some detailed examples of the voltage drops that occured from a current limited voltage source obtained from resonance of large induction coils, some of the comments I recieved were this is gooblety gook, or some such derogatory comments. I am sure there are a few list members that have played around with NST's and high voltage CS methods. Yet I have not seen the following method of using an NST in this following manner posted on the silver list. It does exactly what I have advocated all along, to provide a voltage source that delivers the least possible voltage that will enable the set amount of current being limited to develope, according to the increasing conductivity of the solution. So now I can again ask the list members, do you STILL think these figures are gooblety gook? Now that I have described essentially a simpler method to obtain the same results? I feel now that I am vindicated here, and what I was initially talking about is born out by these test results.
Preliminary NST info; The NST is actually somewhat like the variable voltage source similar to what the resonant voltage coil system provides. If we have one neon bulb on the AC voltage output, the transformer provides only the voltage needed to ionize that bulb. A conventional ~20 inch neon tube actually only needs about 550-650 AC volts to ionize that bulb, and if the bulb is ALREADY lit, we can measure both the voltage and amperage through that bulb with conventional digital meters. However if we had the voltage meter across the bulb, BEFORE the NST was turned on, the voltage surge on turn on might incapacitate the voltage meter. So for example a 12,000 volt NST does NOT supply 12,000 volts in the running of a neon bulb, it only supplies the voltage needed to maintain the ionization potential, again about 5 to 6 hundred volts AC which can be measured after the bulb itself has been ionized. If we add another bulb in series, again the voltage output of the transformer will rise to the level needed to ionize both bulbs. So as we can see this is a "variable" voltage source. Likewise for the production of CS by a current limited regimen, it is seen that the voltage will drop across the rectified CS cell in accordance with that cell becoming more conductive, exactly similar as occurs with the resonant coil system voltage source. Here are the reslts of a four hour production run where the conductivity appears to have risen 75% from the initial measured level after one hour, where the current limited setting was placed at 1.23 ma. I now use the purest possible distilled water as a source, because this water is actually distilled twice, once from the manufacturer's method stated on the distilled bottled water source, and a second distillation using the ellis ozonated steam method. The differences between these water samples before and after, and the improvement of the distilled water upon 2nd distillation are readily evident by before and after conductivity tests. Set up for a single cell CS batch is made using 13.5 oz 2nd pass distilled water, with 1 1/4 inch separation of silver bar electrodes, with about 1 sq inch inner surface area of electrodes. Initial battery test shows the CS battery device delivers 20.5 DC volts open connection. Connection to cells shows 19 volts enabling .80 ma. The battery device is only used to note differences before and after a cetain time period, to note the increase of conductivity, whereby this information is not available from the variable voltage source itself, because the final results are themselves made from a "current limited" source, where in that device only the voltage drop notes the increased conductivity, but in the battery device the increased conductivity is noted by an increase of observed amperage. Thus the battery device is used to make an estimate of that increased conductivity beyond what was initially measured. AC voltage input by variac was determined by its own inherent meter. A 1 ma current limit on NST output after rectification was not used because this was far into the low end of what voltage the input variac was able to supply. Instead the variac was turned to 2 volts AC output, and the DC amperage meter was shorted across the DC full wave rectification output placed on the NST's secondary outputs to see what current limit was obtained. This was noted at 1.23 ma, With these settings then only 1.23 ma is available from the system, and this limit will not be exceeded. Now the DC amperage connection was severed and a digital voltmeter placed across that DC output. This read 120 volts DC with quite a bit of fluxuation, possibly being caused by operating on the low end of the variacs output. Now the amperage meter is placed in series with the CS cell and process is begun. 10 minute intervals for one hours operation are noted. Start up shows 44 volts enabling 1.09 ma A drop from the measured 120 volts at open connection 10 min 26.5 volts yeilds 1.19 ma 20 min 22.4 volts yeilds 1.20 ma 30 min 20.5 volts yeilds 1.20 ma 40 min 18.4 volts yeilds 1.20 ma 50 min 16.0 volts yeilds 1.21 ma 60 min 14.1 volts yeilds 1.21 ma Now a battery test is made to show increase of conductivity for a current limited value of 1.23 ma after 1 hour 18.8 volts yeilds 1.4 ma, a 75% increase from starting value, without also factoring in the battery drop of supply voltage that also occurs with the increased conductivity of the soultion. A 2 hr test is also made where 8.3 volts yeilds 1.22 ma Thus we can see that after two hours the process is just past 99% of the possible set current limit of 1.23 ma A battery test at this two hour level shows 18 volts yeilding 2.1 ma, or about a 160% increase in conductivity without factoring in the battery supply voltage drop. A test after four hours shows 5.5 volts enabling the same 1.22 ma, just under the current limited setting of 1.23 ma A final battery test shows 17.4 volts enabling 3.0 ma If we also take into context the drop in battery supply voltage to make this 3 ma, this would probably be about a 4 fold increase in conductivity, or as other commentators have noted about 16 ppm made from such a 4 fold increase.(if this is correct) To conclude, the current limited variac/ NST method delivers results similar to that of the resonant voltage source by induction coil method. This trial was made with a Jefferson 12,000 volt, 30 ma NST Sincerely HDN ===== Tesla Research Group; Pioneering the Applications of Interphasal Resonances http://groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: [email protected] Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]>
