I am not sure what all this was trying to tell us. Several of us use the NST for making CS, including me, and there are a few CS units on the market that do so as well. This is the reason they are used, and they work very well.
Marshall Harvey Norris wrote: > July 8th NST "current limited" CS results. > > Note; In the past when I have provided some detailed > examples of the voltage drops that occured from a > current limited voltage source obtained from resonance > of large induction coils, some of the comments I > recieved were this is gooblety gook, or some such > derogatory comments. I am sure there are a few list > members that have played around with NST's and high > voltage CS methods. Yet I have not seen the following > method of using an NST in this following manner posted > on the silver list. It does exactly what I have > advocated all along, to provide a voltage source that > delivers the least possible voltage that will enable > the set amount of current being limited to develope, > according to the increasing conductivity of the > solution. So now I can again ask the list members, do > you STILL think these figures are gooblety gook? Now > that I have described essentially a simpler method to > obtain the same results? I feel now that I am > vindicated here, and what I was initially talking > about is born out by these test results. > > Preliminary NST info; > > The NST is actually somewhat like the variable voltage > source similar to what the resonant voltage coil > system provides. If we have one neon bulb on the AC > voltage output, the transformer provides only the > voltage needed to ionize that bulb. A conventional ~20 > inch neon tube actually only needs about 550-650 AC > volts to ionize that bulb, and if the bulb is ALREADY > lit, we can measure both the voltage and amperage > through that bulb with conventional digital meters. > However if we had the voltage meter across the bulb, > BEFORE the NST was turned on, the voltage surge on > turn on might incapacitate the voltage meter. So for > example a 12,000 volt NST does NOT supply 12,000 volts > in the running of a neon bulb, it only supplies the > voltage needed to maintain the ionization potential, > again about 5 to 6 hundred volts AC which can be > measured after the bulb itself has been ionized. If we > add another bulb in series, again the voltage output > of > the transformer will rise to the level needed to > ionize both bulbs. So as we can see this is a > "variable" voltage source. > > Likewise for the production of CS by a current limited > regimen, it is seen that the voltage will drop across > the rectified CS cell in accordance with that cell > becoming more conductive, exactly similar as occurs > with the resonant coil system voltage source. > > Here are the reslts of a four hour production run > where > the conductivity appears to have risen 75% from the > initial measured level after one hour, where the > current limited setting was placed at 1.23 ma. I now > use the purest possible distilled water as a source, > because this water is actually distilled twice, once > from the manufacturer's method stated on the distilled > bottled water source, and a second distillation using > the ellis ozonated steam method. The differences > between these water samples before and after, and the > improvement of the distilled water upon 2nd > distillation are readily evident by before and after > conductivity tests. > > Set up for a single cell CS batch is made using 13.5 > oz 2nd pass distilled water, with 1 1/4 inch > separation of silver bar electrodes, with about 1 sq > inch inner surface area of electrodes. > > Initial battery test shows the CS battery device > delivers 20.5 DC volts open connection. Connection to > cells shows 19 volts enabling .80 ma. The battery > device is only used to note differences before and > after a cetain time period, to note the increase of > conductivity, whereby this information is not > available from the variable voltage source itself, > because the final results are themselves made from a > "current limited" source, where in that device only > the voltage drop notes the increased conductivity, but > in the battery device the increased conductivity is > noted by an increase of observed amperage. Thus the > battery device is used to make an estimate of that > increased conductivity beyond what was initially > measured. > > AC voltage input by variac was determined by its own > inherent meter. A 1 ma current limit on NST output > after rectification was not used because this was far > into the low end of what voltage the input variac was > able to supply. Instead the variac was turned to 2 > volts AC output, and the DC amperage meter was shorted > across the DC full wave rectification output placed on > the NST's secondary outputs to see what current limit > was obtained. This was noted at 1.23 ma, With these > settings then only 1.23 ma is available from the > system, and this limit will not be exceeded. > > Now the DC amperage connection was severed and a > digital voltmeter placed across that DC output. This > read 120 volts DC with quite a bit of fluxuation, > possibly being caused by operating on the low end of > the variacs output. > > Now the amperage meter is placed in series with the CS > cell and process is begun. 10 minute intervals for one > hours operation are noted. > Start up shows > 44 volts enabling 1.09 ma > A drop from the measured 120 volts at open connection > 10 min 26.5 volts yeilds 1.19 ma > 20 min 22.4 volts yeilds 1.20 ma > 30 min 20.5 volts yeilds 1.20 ma > 40 min 18.4 volts yeilds 1.20 ma > 50 min 16.0 volts yeilds 1.21 ma > 60 min 14.1 volts yeilds 1.21 ma > > Now a battery test is made to show increase of > conductivity for a current limited value of 1.23 ma > after 1 hour > > 18.8 volts yeilds 1.4 ma, a 75% increase from starting > value, without also factoring in the battery drop of > supply voltage that also occurs with the increased > conductivity of the soultion. > > A 2 hr test is also made where > 8.3 volts yeilds 1.22 ma > > Thus we can see that after two hours the process is > just past 99% of the possible set current limit of > 1.23 ma > > A battery test at this two hour level shows > 18 volts yeilding 2.1 ma, or about a 160% increase in > conductivity without factoring in the battery supply > voltage drop. > > A test after four hours shows 5.5 volts enabling the > same 1.22 ma, just under the current limited setting > of 1.23 ma > > A final battery test shows 17.4 volts enabling 3.0 ma > If we also take into context the drop in battery > supply voltage to make this 3 ma, this would probably > be about a 4 fold increase in conductivity, or as > other commentators have noted about 16 ppm made from > such a 4 fold increase.(if this is correct) > > To conclude, the current limited variac/ NST method > delivers results similar to that of the resonant > voltage source by induction coil method. This trial > was made with a Jefferson 12,000 volt, 30 ma NST > Sincerely HDN > > ===== > Tesla Research Group; Pioneering the Applications of Interphasal Resonances > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/ > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > http://sbc.yahoo.com > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: [email protected] > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]>
