I posted the information on this about a year ago to this list.  I am
sure it is still valid.

Marshall

Latta wrote:

> Do you have any evidence of this or is this just more B.S. against
> "Big Business"?
>
> Marshall Dudley wrote:
>
>> Don't forget that since under the law the drug companies can use
>> anything they
>> want for the palcebo. That means that many now use a placebo that
>> has chemicals or
>> poisons in it to make the condition worse, so that the drug being
>> tested will show
>> up more effective, or even if the drug does nothing, it will still
>> show up as
>> effective when compared to the the placeo.
>>
>> Marshall
>>
>> John Rigby wrote:
>>
>>
>> > Hi folks,
>> > The most frustrating thing in scientific controlled testing is
>> > placebo effect.
>> > When testing a drug three groups are needed:
>> > 1. Get the drug
>> > 2. Get a fake (water)
>> > 3. Get nothing, told nothing, just observed normally. ( vis
>> > ordinary
>> > population with that symptom set)
>> > It is CLINICALLY  recognised that up to 30% of the groups 2 and 3
>> > will
>> > improve/self-cure.
>> > BTW: MOST drugs approved today are approved on efficacy rates as
>> > low as
>> > 20%.........
>> > ****************** WHY do the 30% recover?
>> > They are actually observable to anyone with open eyes (3rd ones?).
>> > These
>> > are the positive ones.
>> > It would appear that even the most die-hard should accept that the
>> > mind is
>> > a powerful component of all healing, thus it is highly likely that
>> > negative
>> > states promote negative health.........
>> >
>> > Sadly, one group with whom I've had most contact have 100%
>> > termination rate
>> > UNLESS they self-manage their affliction and my observation is that
>> > "cause
>> > often shows the cure".
>> > Not even quarts of CS can help a negative mind!
>> > Nor can even a positive mind can help if the afflicted stays in the
>> > zones
>> > that created the illness.  ( Modern food, modern drugs, modern
>> > lifestyle)
>> >
>> > In watching almost a thousand successful cures of the big C , every
>> > one
>> > that was successful *absolutely* required a total lifestyle
>> > overhaul -
>> > otherwise it *does* come back and the worst form of re-infection is
>> > from
>> > the mind.
>> >
>> > Big C, MS, Lyme, whatever your case, unless massively interfered
>> > with by
>> > modern medicine, you can leave it behind.
>> >
>> > Signed:
>> > "Dead Man Walking"  (20 years later)
>> >
>>
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