Good Point!
Every day is a practice in living.
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> From: Stuff <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: [email protected]
> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 06:11:27 -0500
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: CS>the vital placebo effect in ms etc
> Resent-From: [email protected]
> Resent-Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 04:08:24 -0700
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>
> If you want better [not necessarily good] medical info you need to do the
> research. Ad material
> just plays "pretty music" to "teach you the tune".
>
> My experience has also been that statistics are quite worthless because
> the planet is littered with junk science.
>
> We're all *practicing* medicine, even doctors.
>
> stuff
>
> At 07:49 PM 4/25/2004 -0700, Christine wrote:
>> British Medical Journal (BMJ)
>> 2004;328:485 (28 February), doi:10.1136/bmj.328.7438.485-a
>> Only 6% of drug advertising material is supported by evidence
>> Heidelberg Annette Tuffs
>>
>> A new study of the advertising material and marketing brochures sent out
>> by drug companies to GPs in Germany has shown that about 94% of the
>> information in them has no basis in scientific evidence. The study was
>> published in this month¹s issue of the drugs bulletin Arznei Telegramm
>> (2004;35:21-3; www.di-em.de/data/at_2004_35_21.pdf).
>> www.di-em.de/z_index.htm
>> http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/328/7438/485-a
>>
>> http://www.drrathresearch.org/
>>
>> http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/ - Check law suit filed in the
>> International Court at the Hague
>>
>> http://www.mercola.com - 35,000 pages of free health information - confirm
>> JAMA stats.
>> How bad is the problem? Well, according a report issued by JAMA (Journal
>> of The American Medical Association), a total of 225,000 deaths per year
>> occur from iatrogenic causes! Barbara Starfield, M.D., of the Johns
>> Hopkins School of Hygiene and Public Health, author of the report, breaks
>> down the death count this way:
>>
>> 12,000 - from unnecessary surgery
>> 7,000 - from medication errors in hospitals
>> 20,000 - from other errors in hospitals
>> 80,000 - from infections in hospitals
>> 106,000 - from non-error, negative effects of drugs
>>
>> Collectively, the 225,000 iatrogenic (doctor caused) deaths per year
>> constitutes the third leading cause of death in the United States, after
>> deaths from heart disease and cancer. ---I think these numbers are from
>> about 2000. In 2003 the rate of iatrogenic deaths had climbed from 3rd
>> leading cause of death to 1st. (JAMA report)
>>
>> There are many sites that reconfirm the same conclusion.
>>
>> CC
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>>
>> From: Latta <[email protected]>
>> Reply-To: [email protected]
>> Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 15:58:10 -0500
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: CS>the vital placebo effect in ms etc
>> Resent-From: [email protected]
>> Resent-Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 13:55:34 -0700
>>
>>
>> Do you have any evidence of this or is this just more B.S. against "Big
>> Business"?
>>
>> Marshall Dudley wrote:
>> Don't forget that since under the law the drug companies can use anything
>> they
>> want for the palcebo. That means that many now use a placebo that has
>> chemicals or
>> poisons in it to make the condition worse, so that the drug being tested
>> will show
>> up more effective, or even if the drug does nothing, it will still show up as
>> effective when compared to the the placeo.
>>
>> Marshall
>>
>> John Rigby wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi folks,
>> The most frustrating thing in scientific controlled testing is placebo
>> effect.
>> When testing a drug three groups are needed:
>> 1. Get the drug
>> 2. Get a fake (water)
>> 3. Get nothing, told nothing, just observed normally. ( vis ordinary
>> population with that symptom set)
>> It is CLINICALLY recognised that up to 30% of the groups 2 and 3 will
>> improve/self-cure.
>> BTW: MOST drugs approved today are approved on efficacy rates as low as
>> 20%.........
>> ****************** WHY do the 30% recover?
>> They are actually observable to anyone with open eyes (3rd ones?). These
>> are the positive ones.
>> It would appear that even the most die-hard should accept that the mind is
>> a powerful component of all healing, thus it is highly likely that negative
>> states promote negative health.........
>>
>> Sadly, one group with whom I've had most contact have 100% termination rate
>> UNLESS they self-manage their affliction and my observation is that "cause
>> often shows the cure".
>> Not even quarts of CS can help a negative mind!
>> Nor can even a positive mind can help if the afflicted stays in the zones
>> that created the illness. ( Modern food, modern drugs, modern lifestyle)
>>
>> In watching almost a thousand successful cures of the big C , every one
>> that was successful *absolutely* required a total lifestyle overhaul -
>> otherwise it *does* come back and the worst form of re-infection is from
>> the mind.
>>
>> Big C, MS, Lyme, whatever your case, unless massively interfered with by
>> modern medicine, you can leave it behind.
>>
>> Signed:
>> "Dead Man Walking" (20 years later)
>>
>>
>>
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