Yep, proved it myself with my scanning photospectrometer.  Simply sending
thoughts to distilled water would change it's absorption spectrum in the UV
range in a consistant manner according to the though forms. Biggest chagnes
though were to use reichi type of energy on the water when I was testing
that.

I managed to totally mess up the vials the water was in doing that, and had
to have a reichi master come in to fix them.  Hach said it would be over $100
to replace them.

Marshall

"Jonathan B. Britten" wrote:

> Dr. Tiller of Stanford has a new book out this year about consciousness
> and "conditioned" spaces;  it purports to prove the reality of thought
> influence on space.   On researcher has tried to replicate the results
> and claims failure.   But at a glance, Tiller's laboratory and controls
> appear to be first-rate. . . . looking forward to reading the book soon.
>
> JBB
>
> On Saturday, Jul 17, 2004, at 00:11 Asia/Tokyo, Marshall Dudley wrote:
>
> > It is all based on INTENT.  Without intent, homeopathic methods cannot
> > work.
> > After all, anytime you mix anything with water, or even add water to a
> > glass
> > that is very slightly dirty, it should be creating a homeopathic
> > remedy.  By the
> > time you get any water it should be full of millions of homeopathic
> > remedies
> > from all the dilutions and encounters it met.
> >
> > I believe that one does not have to go through the steps to create a
> > homeopathic
> > remedy, it can be done with intent only.  This is done with Holy
> > water, created
> > with intent only.  However the concious mind tends to not accept that
> > simply
> > directing thoughts at anything can change it, and requires some type
> > of physical
> > action that it can at least accept as the mechanism.  This is
> > encountered in
> > dowsing quite often. The rods are a physical extension of the intent.
> > The
> > moving of a vein of water requires hitting a stake driven into the
> > ground,
> > although physically it does nothing.  Without this crutch, the
> > concious cannot
> > accept that the action can take place, and the subconcious will not
> > preform it's
> > magic without belief (or faith).
> >
> > Marshall
> >
> > Ode Coyote wrote:
> >
> >> In the case of Homeopathic medicine as tested twice by the Royal
> >> Society
> >> who at first validated the field, then rejected it, it turned out
> >> that the
> >> water did not hold a memory.
> >> It only worked when the people who 'made' the water held the memory.
> >> [The
> >> "field" wasn't rejected, only the mechanizm.]
> >>  In the second round of testing, the people who were diluting the
> >> water did
> >> not know what they were diluting and it was set up so that no one knew
> >> until afterwards, what was what. It didn't work any better than
> >> chance.
> >>
> >> Since it did work better than pure placebo on the first round, it
> >> stands to
> >> reason that somehow the memory held by the makers of the water was
> >> symbolized by the water which was accessed to tune into that
> >> memory...possibly similar to the way prayers are accessed by blessed
> >> water
> >> which also works better than placebo.
> >>  There is evidence coming to light that memory itself is held as a non
> >> local hologram accessed by the brain...tuned into rather than wholly
> >> stored
> >> there. [Short term memory might be seen as a sort of RAM located in
> >> the
> >> brain as processing it into meaning is ongoing, where long term memory
> >> might be seen as a non local ROM stored as static data with no
> >> meanings
> >> attached.
> >>
> >>  If that's the case, many many other mysteries..such as instinct..
> >> become
> >> clear.
> >>
> >>  If the brain is damaged or otherwise warped in function..access
> >> denied, or
> >> data in/garbage out.]
> >>
> >>  DNA might be sufficient to explain the formation of the computers
> >> circuits
> >> but falls short of explaining the patterns of electrical activity IN
> >> those
> >> circuits.
> >>
> >>  Then there's the aura or a "field" of sorts that surrounds and
> >> permeates
> >> all things.  Does the form construct the aura or does the aura give
> >> space/time locality to the componants of the form?
> >>
> >>  How does a cell know 'where to be what' if it's the very first one
> >> dividing into many, each with identical DNA?
> >>  Why doesn't a concrete block, a seething mass of atomic activity,
> >> just
> >> fall apart? [a 'matter' of 'concrete thought', localized into
> >> space/time?
> >> Well, something that everyone agrees upon carries a sort of 'apparent'
> >> stability whether it's "really" true or not.]
> >>
> >>  It seems to me that the human form, the planet and the universe it's
> >> in..all forms in space and time..are a result of consciousness, not
> >> the
> >> cause of it and that seeming divisions between forms is a definition
> >> caused
> >> by purposeful perceptive limitations, more like a droplet defining
> >> its own
> >> size and shape within the ocean and the ocean not caring what the
> >> droplet
> >> thinks about anything, rather than the ocean saying 'There be a
> >> droplet
> >> that's not me, somewhere that I am not'.
> >> ["Oh!, says God, I've fallen apart!  Please o' pieces, make me whole!"
> >> Result?  religion...and endless arguement about how to fix something
> >> that
> >> can't happen.]
> >>
> >> One of the greatest creative powers we have is the ability to fool
> >> ourselves in to believing we can't fool ourselves.  From there,
> >> anything
> >> goes, no matter how improbable. [Including a complete and believeable
> >> mis-
> >> defininition of what a 'we' is, making the we that we thinks we are,
> >> apparently self validating.]
> >>  I believe the only reason we appear to even live in the same
> >> universe is
> >> because we have agreed to a pattern and a limitation of perception
> >> that
> >> resides behind the denial that we did that. Perception itself , being
> >> a
> >> matter of comparisons pidgeonholed into 'this is this and that is not
> >> this'
> >> depends more on what is not perceived than what is.
> >>  It's one of the properties of focus where you can't see anything at
> >> all if
> >> you don't focus and can't see anything else if you do.
> >>
> >>  So, any 'thing' could hold memory in the same way that everything
> >> everywhere AND nothing nowhere, always does...as an access symbol to
> >> that
> >> memory individually distorted in meaning according to the computer
> >> program
> >> [engram] that processes the memory assigning meaning to it.
> >>
> >>  One mans trash is another mans treasure...same trash 'seen'
> >> differently...
> >> different meaning and application.
> >>
> >>  Could this be why any medication [including CS] doesn't do the same
> >> thing
> >> to, or for, every person?
> >>  Why is it that it's "Side effects may include" rather than "side
> >> effects
> >> ARE"?
> >>
> >> It could be that CS works the same for most people because it's simple
> >> enough, yet mysterious enough..complete with the symbology that the
> >> substance 'silver' holds in the popular conciousness, for most people
> >> to
> >> agree upon...much like agreeing that getting hit by anything hard, at
> >> velocity, sorta hurts.
> >>
> >> As though, "I" AM that which gets hit vs "Hey! Your car dented my
> >> car!"
> >>
> >> Of course, if the car gets dented so badly it can't be driven, one
> >> finds
> >> themselves on foot walking.
> >>  Oops, I can walk!
> >>  It had [fore] gotton so I'd drive to the mailbox on the door of my
> >> garage
> >> and read the mail from the occupant of the car next to mine with
> >> headlights
> >> and photo sensors.
> >>  [I was 'taught' to drive a certain way from the very day I got this
> >> car.
> >> Childhood drivers education starts with a wiggle and giggle permit.]
> >>
> >>  Now, Where shall I go?  To Detroit [or Korea] for another car, of
> >> course!
> >>
> >> Ode
> >>>
> >>> As for the science in Silver or anything else, we hummin beans know
> >>> so very
> >>> little about anything. Just take water for instance.
> >>> As our ability to measure things improves we seem to prove more and
> >>> more
> >>> legends and old wife's tales to be true.
> >>> Water we now find not only does have a memory, it goes beyond our
> >>> current
> >>> state of Western Physics to understand that at a dilution below a
> >>> single
> >>> molecule level, water can "remember" the substance.
> >>> Nothing more than ancient science has been saying for thousands of
> >>> years,
> >>> culminating in the codified Western idea of Homeopathy.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>>
> >>> Him
> >>> Onwards to DMSO, next.
> >>>
> >>>
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