Dr. Tiller of Stanford has a new book out this year about consciousness and "conditioned" spaces; it purports to prove the reality of thought influence on space. On researcher has tried to replicate the results and claims failure. But at a glance, Tiller's laboratory and controls appear to be first-rate. . . . looking forward to reading the book soon.


JBB




On Saturday, Jul 17, 2004, at 00:11 Asia/Tokyo, Marshall Dudley wrote:

It is all based on INTENT. Without intent, homeopathic methods cannot work. After all, anytime you mix anything with water, or even add water to a glass that is very slightly dirty, it should be creating a homeopathic remedy. By the time you get any water it should be full of millions of homeopathic remedies
from all the dilutions and encounters it met.

I believe that one does not have to go through the steps to create a homeopathic remedy, it can be done with intent only. This is done with Holy water, created with intent only. However the concious mind tends to not accept that simply directing thoughts at anything can change it, and requires some type of physical action that it can at least accept as the mechanism. This is encountered in dowsing quite often. The rods are a physical extension of the intent. The moving of a vein of water requires hitting a stake driven into the ground, although physically it does nothing. Without this crutch, the concious cannot accept that the action can take place, and the subconcious will not preform it's
magic without belief (or faith).

Marshall

Ode Coyote wrote:

In the case of Homeopathic medicine as tested twice by the Royal Society who at first validated the field, then rejected it, it turned out that the
water did not hold a memory.
It only worked when the people who 'made' the water held the memory. [The
"field" wasn't rejected, only the mechanizm.]
In the second round of testing, the people who were diluting the water did
not know what they were diluting and it was set up so that no one knew
until afterwards, what was what. It didn't work any better than chance.

Since it did work better than pure placebo on the first round, it stands to
reason that somehow the memory held by the makers of the water was
symbolized by the water which was accessed to tune into that
memory...possibly similar to the way prayers are accessed by blessed water
which also works better than placebo.
 There is evidence coming to light that memory itself is held as a non
local hologram accessed by the brain...tuned into rather than wholly stored there. [Short term memory might be seen as a sort of RAM located in the
brain as processing it into meaning is ongoing, where long term memory
might be seen as a non local ROM stored as static data with no meanings
attached.

If that's the case, many many other mysteries..such as instinct.. become
clear.

If the brain is damaged or otherwise warped in function..access denied, or
data in/garbage out.]

DNA might be sufficient to explain the formation of the computers circuits but falls short of explaining the patterns of electrical activity IN those
circuits.

Then there's the aura or a "field" of sorts that surrounds and permeates
all things.  Does the form construct the aura or does the aura give
space/time locality to the componants of the form?

 How does a cell know 'where to be what' if it's the very first one
dividing into many, each with identical DNA?
Why doesn't a concrete block, a seething mass of atomic activity, just fall apart? [a 'matter' of 'concrete thought', localized into space/time?
Well, something that everyone agrees upon carries a sort of 'apparent'
stability whether it's "really" true or not.]

 It seems to me that the human form, the planet and the universe it's
in..all forms in space and time..are a result of consciousness, not the cause of it and that seeming divisions between forms is a definition caused by purposeful perceptive limitations, more like a droplet defining its own size and shape within the ocean and the ocean not caring what the droplet thinks about anything, rather than the ocean saying 'There be a droplet
that's not me, somewhere that I am not'.
["Oh!, says God, I've fallen apart!  Please o' pieces, make me whole!"
Result? religion...and endless arguement about how to fix something that
can't happen.]

One of the greatest creative powers we have is the ability to fool
ourselves in to believing we can't fool ourselves. From there, anything goes, no matter how improbable. [Including a complete and believeable mis-
defininition of what a 'we' is, making the we that we thinks we are,
apparently self validating.]
I believe the only reason we appear to even live in the same universe is because we have agreed to a pattern and a limitation of perception that resides behind the denial that we did that. Perception itself , being a matter of comparisons pidgeonholed into 'this is this and that is not this'
depends more on what is not perceived than what is.
It's one of the properties of focus where you can't see anything at all if
you don't focus and can't see anything else if you do.

 So, any 'thing' could hold memory in the same way that everything
everywhere AND nothing nowhere, always does...as an access symbol to that memory individually distorted in meaning according to the computer program
[engram] that processes the memory assigning meaning to it.

One mans trash is another mans treasure...same trash 'seen' differently...
different meaning and application.

Could this be why any medication [including CS] doesn't do the same thing
to, or for, every person?
Why is it that it's "Side effects may include" rather than "side effects
ARE"?

It could be that CS works the same for most people because it's simple
enough, yet mysterious enough..complete with the symbology that the
substance 'silver' holds in the popular conciousness, for most people to
agree upon...much like agreeing that getting hit by anything hard, at
velocity, sorta hurts.

As though, "I" AM that which gets hit vs "Hey! Your car dented my car!"

Of course, if the car gets dented so badly it can't be driven, one finds
themselves on foot walking.
 Oops, I can walk!
It had [fore] gotton so I'd drive to the mailbox on the door of my garage and read the mail from the occupant of the car next to mine with headlights
and photo sensors.
[I was 'taught' to drive a certain way from the very day I got this car.
Childhood drivers education starts with a wiggle and giggle permit.]

Now, Where shall I go? To Detroit [or Korea] for another car, of course!

Ode

As for the science in Silver or anything else, we hummin beans know so very
little about anything. Just take water for instance.
As our ability to measure things improves we seem to prove more and more
legends and old wife's tales to be true.
Water we now find not only does have a memory, it goes beyond our current state of Western Physics to understand that at a dilution below a single
molecule level, water can "remember" the substance.
Nothing more than ancient science has been saying for thousands of years,
culminating in the codified Western idea of Homeopathy.

Cheers,

Him
Onwards to DMSO, next.



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