Hi Marshall, Well son of gun it worked. I had a jar of CS I had made. It was an old batch that was perfectly clear, then I added some water to it and ran the current through it some more and it turned golden and then got real deep yellow after a few days. Looked like apple juice. so after readnig the below I thought what the heck I'll put some H2O2 in there and see what happens. I put maybe a couple ounces in a quart jar that was 2/3 full a little at a time. and it is now almost perfectly clear. V
> Yes. If your CS has a large particle content, and overall exceeds some > minimum level (something over 26 ppm), then when the large particles are > converted to ionic, the ionic content can exceed the solubility of silver > oxide/hydroxide, and will produce a brown sediment. If you have mostly > ionic in which you already have brown suspension of the ionic > precipitant, then that will be converted to 2 atom colloid, reducing the > ionic content to under the solubility limit, and it all then dissolves > and goes clear. > Here are some examples, asuming that you end up with 67% ionic after the > H2O2 is added: > Lets assume that after adding H2O2 you end up with 33% particle, and 67% > ionic That is quite possible since the ionic portion will be both silver > oxide and silver hydroxide, so if we end up with equal amounts of each > that will give 67% ionic. > Start with 35 ppm 90% colloid large particles 10% ionic color brown from > large particles and ionic silver precipitant, result 33% colloid small > particles, 67% ionic. Ionic content goes from 90% 35 ppm = 31.5 ppm to > 67% of 35 ppm = 23 ppm, and since the ionic content is now below 26 ppm > it all dissolves and the particles are small, so it goes clear. > Start with 42 ppm 60% ionic with colloid large particles color gold from > particles only the ionic is totally dissolved (ionic is only 25 ppm). > Result is 67% of 42 ppm = 28 ppm ionic, with the particles once again 2 > atom in size, so it goes to brown with the ionic silver oxide/hydroxide > precipitant. > What this basically says is that it does not matter what the initial > ionic vs particle content of the batch is, what matters is the total > silver content including both the ionic and particulate, and if that > amount is less than some certain amount (around 40 ppm?, then it will go > clear with H2O2, and if it is more it will go cloudy and brown. > Marshall >> By the way, I dilute and drink the CS that has turned >> brown from H2O2. (It's just CS with H2O2 in it.) >> Remember, it's almost difficult to make a toxic or >> dangerous CS, no matter what the color, if you are >> only using Fine silver and DW. >> I can brew 10 gallons for an hour during the summer >> (when the room is warm) and get crystal clear CS. If I >> brew it for 1-1/2 hours, it will be gold. That doesn't >> mean that it's bad or toxic CS, it simply means the >> particles are big enough to refract light, but still >> much, much smaller than the ground-up silver the >> European Royalty used to ingest. I have no hesitation >> to drinking yellow or gold CS (I've drunk many gallons >> of it), and have no reason to think it is in any way >> dangerous. I make a point of brewing clear CS because >> I don't feel that gold CS is more effective than clear >> CS, but gold CS does mean my silver wires are >> dissolving faster. >> If you are using DW and Fine silver and you get a >> colored or cloudy batch, don't fret, don't throw it >> out, drink it, use it, it's fine. If you want, dilute >> it before ingesting it (I personally don't bother), >> but don't fear it. >> It's not the occasional colored/cloudy/muddy batch >> that can hurt you, it's the consistent, regular >> ingestion of large amounts of brown or blackish CS >> over a significant period of time that MAY be a >> concern. The closest thing to an example of this is >> Stan Jones, who didn't even use DW. If it took him two >> years, drinking 8 oz/day of coffee-colored, >> chlorinated tap water CS, to get a faint blue around >> his eyes, how safe is yellow CS made with DW? Safe >> enough that I wouldn't even give it a second thought. >> The scientists have found that it is actually HARD to >> create argyria, that it takes HUGE amounts of silver >> compounds to eventually produce it. And what they have >> done is not in the same dimension with what we are >> doing. >> Let me put it more succinctly: >> If you were to brew CS using only DW and Fine silver >> wire, and you brewed it however long it took to get >> coffee-colored CS, it would still not be what Stan >> Jones drank, and I am very dubious that what happened >> to Stan would happen to you. Nevertheless, to stay on >> the safe side, here is the rule - follow this rule, >> and you won't go wrong: >> DON'T REGULARLY DRINK LARGE AMOUNTS OF COFFEE-COLORED >> CS. >> Anything else I consider to be safe, IMHO. >> Terry Chamberlin >> __________________________________________________________ >> Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca >> -- >> The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. >> Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org >> To post, address your message to: [email protected] >> Address Off-Topic messages to: [email protected] >> The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... >> List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]> --
