## Gee, that was a LOT of peroxide!
Have you tasted that stuff???? HooooWEEE!
Try 6 to 12 drops next time and you won't get that spitting mad dog look
when you use it.
Ode
At 09:43 AM 12/19/2005 -0800, you wrote:
Hi Marshall,
Well son of gun it worked. I had a jar of CS I had made. It was an old
batch that was perfectly clear, then I added some water to it and ran the
current through it some more and it turned golden and then got real deep
yellow after a few days. Looked like apple juice. so after readnig the
below I thought what the heck I'll put some H2O2 in there and see what
happens. I put maybe a couple ounces in a quart jar that was 2/3 full a
little at a time. and it is now almost perfectly clear.
V
> Yes. If your CS has a large particle content, and overall exceeds some
> minimum level (something over 26 ppm), then when the large particles are
> converted to ionic, the ionic content can exceed the solubility of silver
> oxide/hydroxide, and will produce a brown sediment. If you have mostly
> ionic in which you already have brown suspension of the ionic
> precipitant, then that will be converted to 2 atom colloid, reducing the
> ionic content to under the solubility limit, and it all then dissolves
> and goes clear.
> Here are some examples, asuming that you end up with 67% ionic after the
> H2O2 is added:
> Lets assume that after adding H2O2 you end up with 33% particle, and 67%
> ionic That is quite possible since the ionic portion will be both silver
> oxide and silver hydroxide, so if we end up with equal amounts of each
> that will give 67% ionic.
> Start with 35 ppm 90% colloid large particles 10% ionic color brown from
> large particles and ionic silver precipitant, result 33% colloid small
> particles, 67% ionic. Ionic content goes from 90% 35 ppm = 31.5 ppm to
> 67% of 35 ppm = 23 ppm, and since the ionic content is now below 26 ppm
> it all dissolves and the particles are small, so it goes clear.
> Start with 42 ppm 60% ionic with colloid large particles color gold from
> particles only the ionic is totally dissolved (ionic is only 25 ppm).
> Result is 67% of 42 ppm = 28 ppm ionic, with the particles once again 2
> atom in size, so it goes to brown with the ionic silver oxide/hydroxide
> precipitant.
> What this basically says is that it does not matter what the initial
> ionic vs particle content of the batch is, what matters is the total
> silver content including both the ionic and particulate, and if that
> amount is less than some certain amount (around 40 ppm?, then it will go
> clear with H2O2, and if it is more it will go cloudy and brown.
> Marshall
>> By the way, I dilute and drink the CS that has turned
>> brown from H2O2. (It's just CS with H2O2 in it.)
>> Remember, it's almost difficult to make a toxic or
>> dangerous CS, no matter what the color, if you are
>> only using Fine silver and DW.
>> I can brew 10 gallons for an hour during the summer
>> (when the room is warm) and get crystal clear CS. If I
>> brew it for 1-1/2 hours, it will be gold. That doesn't
>> mean that it's bad or toxic CS, it simply means the
>> particles are big enough to refract light, but still
>> much, much smaller than the ground-up silver the
>> European Royalty used to ingest. I have no hesitation
>> to drinking yellow or gold CS (I've drunk many gallons
>> of it), and have no reason to think it is in any way
>> dangerous. I make a point of brewing clear CS because
>> I don't feel that gold CS is more effective than clear
>> CS, but gold CS does mean my silver wires are
>> dissolving faster.
>> If you are using DW and Fine silver and you get a
>> colored or cloudy batch, don't fret, don't throw it
>> out, drink it, use it, it's fine. If you want, dilute
>> it before ingesting it (I personally don't bother),
>> but don't fear it.
>> It's not the occasional colored/cloudy/muddy batch
>> that can hurt you, it's the consistent, regular
>> ingestion of large amounts of brown or blackish CS
>> over a significant period of time that MAY be a
>> concern. The closest thing to an example of this is
>> Stan Jones, who didn't even use DW. If it took him two
>> years, drinking 8 oz/day of coffee-colored,
>> chlorinated tap water CS, to get a faint blue around
>> his eyes, how safe is yellow CS made with DW? Safe
>> enough that I wouldn't even give it a second thought.
>> The scientists have found that it is actually HARD to
>> create argyria, that it takes HUGE amounts of silver
>> compounds to eventually produce it. And what they have
>> done is not in the same dimension with what we are
>> doing.
>> Let me put it more succinctly:
>> If you were to brew CS using only DW and Fine silver
>> wire, and you brewed it however long it took to get
>> coffee-colored CS, it would still not be what Stan
>> Jones drank, and I am very dubious that what happened
>> to Stan would happen to you. Nevertheless, to stay on
>> the safe side, here is the rule - follow this rule,
>> and you won't go wrong:
>> DON'T REGULARLY DRINK LARGE AMOUNTS OF COFFEE-COLORED
>> CS.
>> Anything else I consider to be safe, IMHO.
>> Terry Chamberlin
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