Hi Doris, perhaps I wasn't clear; if you buy distilled water from the
store and boil it, you don't have to distill it again afterward, it's good
to go as boiled distilled water. After all, what does the distiller do
anyway but boil the water?? I'd say you are stuck with the problem of the
Genesis distillers in any case; if they work with the new stuff they're
sending you, well fine - if they don't you have to send them back
anyway. What you buy or don't buy next remains your decision for the
future . . . . so it goes,
Malcolm
At 07:11 PM 2/26/07 -0500, you wrote:
I called Genesis this morning and they said that sometimes their filters
are "pressed too tightly" and the water doesn't go through it it goes
around it. They are sending me a new filter in the mail asap but I
checked the filter. I don't think this is the problem. I'll try anything
though. I'll try distilling it in to a glass container and see if this
makes a difference.
If I buy distilled water from the store and have to boil it and play with
it then I still have to send my distillers back and purchase yet another
product. I will at least try to solve this problem with what I have.
Doris
Thanks for the info.
Malcolm Stebbins <[email protected]> wrote:
Hey, don't give up hope! Just take the "distilled" water from the store
and boil it in a glassware pot for five minutes or so; remember the old
pyrex coffee percolators, they're perfect for it, so are the "visionware"
glass pots. Let it cool and taste-smell it to make sure the plasticizer
is gone, then go right ahead and make your CS with that water, the
dissolved carbon dioxide makes the water just slightly more conductive,
that's all; you'll still make good CS with it.
BTW, if your tap water tastes ok out of the faucet but plasticky after
going through the distiller, there's something haywire with the distiller,
right?
Take care, Malcolm
PS: the product is so expensive in the stores cuz they can get away with
charging that much to people who didn't get a chemistry education, and so
don't know how simple it really can be with the right starting ingredients
- - Like distilled water in 5 gallon glass jugs, f'rinstance, or a simple
reverse osmosis system under the kitchen sink with a de-ionizer cart.
At 10:45 PM 2/25/07 -0500, you wrote:
Wow, sounds like I have made a bad investment. I can't drink the stuff
and certainly can't make cs out of it for drinking. Looks like I need to
sell them or send them back to the makers. Thanks for the info. Too
much work for the end product. Now I know why cs is so expensive in the
stores. It's not the product that costs so much but the hours and hours
of processing.
Doris
Malcolm Stebbins <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Doris, most polyethylene gallon jugs have a plasticizer added to the
basic material the jug is molded (blown) from, since straight
polyethylene is rather stiff and brittle, subject to cracking when it's
thin. This plasticizer is volatile, meaning a little of it is always
outgassing from the parent material - chances are that is what you are
tasting-smelling. I do too. Most distillers will drive the plasticizer
that's in the water right along with boiling off the water itself, and it
will be carried over into the distillate. In fact this procedure is
often used in chemistry as a means of extracting purer forms of an oil or
other non-water-soluble compound from its original mixture.
The best way to solve this problem, IMHO, is to shift to a Reverse
Osmosis filtering system with a de-ionizing cartridge as the final stage;
this produces lab grade pure water, given quality components in the RO
system. But this is also expensive, about $300 I would guess. Another
option would be to boil the water you are going to use in an open
glassware pot for five minutes or so. This will drive off much if not
all the plasticizer and also dissolve some carbon dioxide (from the air)
into the water, which is less than perfect but still useable, and
probably much better than drinking plasticizer-ized CS.
Take care, Malcolm
At 11:27 AM 2/25/07 -0500, you wrote:
I was buying distilled water from two different sources and they were in
plastic containers. They tasted plasticky as well. This is the reason
I invested in a distiller and went through all this trouble. It's a
heck of a lot easier to buy the stuff. Now I'm finding that the
distiller is making water that tastes as bad as the store bought stuff
Doris
Malcolm Stebbins <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi; I don't know anything about the Genesis 3000, or most others but
I'd suggest testing your "distilled" water for it's conductivity among
other things. Probably the local high-school chem department has some
test gear, and certainly any chem teacher could whip something up with a
cheap multimeter that would give you an idea. I expect that either
there are some metals or plastics in the distilling machine that are
contaminating the distillate or some other source; does it taste
significantly different than distilled water bought at the grocery store?
Take care, Malcolm
At 06:35 PM 2/21/07 -0500, you wrote:
I have run about 30 loads of water through my distiller and still it
has a strange taste to it. Does anyone know how to change the taste so
it's H2O? I filter it after with a charcoal filter and still
yucky. I've cleaned it with vinegar and there is no buildup or
anything. It's clean as a whistle. Will this taste eventually go
away......... maybe after the 100th batch?
Doris
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