I called Genesis this morning and they said that sometimes their filters are "pressed too tightly" and the water doesn't go through it it goes around it. They are sending me a new filter in the mail asap but I checked the filter. I don't think this is the problem. I'll try anything though. I'll try distilling it in to a glass container and see if this makes a difference. If I buy distilled water from the store and have to boil it and play with it then I still have to send my distillers back and purchase yet another product. I will at least try to solve this problem with what I have. Doris Thanks for the info.
Malcolm Stebbins <[email protected]> wrote: Hey, don't give up hope! Just take the "distilled" water from the store and boil it in a glassware pot for five minutes or so; remember the old pyrex coffee percolators, they're perfect for it, so are the "visionware" glass pots. Let it cool and taste-smell it to make sure the plasticizer is gone, then go right ahead and make your CS with that water, the dissolved carbon dioxide makes the water just slightly more conductive, that's all; you'll still make good CS with it. BTW, if your tap water tastes ok out of the faucet but plasticky after going through the distiller, there's something haywire with the distiller, right? Take care, Malcolm PS: the product is so expensive in the stores cuz they can get away with charging that much to people who didn't get a chemistry education, and so don't know how simple it really can be with the right starting ingredients - - Like distilled water in 5 gallon glass jugs, f'rinstance, or a simple reverse osmosis system under the kitchen sink with a de-ionizer cart. At 10:45 PM 2/25/07 -0500, you wrote: Wow, sounds like I have made a bad investment. I can't drink the stuff and certainly can't make cs out of it for drinking. Looks like I need to sell them or send them back to the makers. Thanks for the info. Too much work for the end product. Now I know why cs is so expensive in the stores. It's not the product that costs so much but the hours and hours of processing. Doris Malcolm Stebbins <[email protected]> wrote: Hi Doris, most polyethylene gallon jugs have a plasticizer added to the basic material the jug is molded (blown) from, since straight polyethylene is rather stiff and brittle, subject to cracking when it's thin. This plasticizer is volatile, meaning a little of it is always outgassing from the parent material - chances are that is what you are tasting-smelling. I do too. Most distillers will drive the plasticizer that's in the water right along with boiling off the water itself, and it will be carried over into the distillate. In fact this procedure is often used in chemistry as a means of extracting purer forms of an oil or other non-water-soluble compound from its original mixture. The best way to solve this problem, IMHO, is to shift to a Reverse Osmosis filtering system with a de-ionizing cartridge as the final stage; this produces lab grade pure water, given quality components in the RO system. But this is also expensive, about $300 I would guess. Another option would be to boil the water you are going to use in an open glassware pot for five minutes or so. This will drive off much if not all the plasticizer and also dissolve some carbon dioxide (from the air) into the water, which is less than perfect but still useable, and probably much better than drinking plasticizer-ized CS. Take care, Malcolm At 11:27 AM 2/25/07 -0500, you wrote: I was buying distilled water from two different sources and they were in plastic containers. They tasted plasticky as well. This is the reason I invested in a distiller and went through all this trouble. It's a heck of a lot easier to buy the stuff. Now I'm finding that the distiller is making water that tastes as bad as the store bought stuff Doris Malcolm Stebbins <[email protected]> wrote: Hi; I don't know anything about the Genesis 3000, or most others but I'd suggest testing your "distilled" water for it's conductivity among other things. Probably the local high-school chem department has some test gear, and certainly any chem teacher could whip something up with a cheap multimeter that would give you an idea. I expect that either there are some metals or plastics in the distilling machine that are contaminating the distillate or some other source; does it taste significantly different than distilled water bought at the grocery store? Take care, Malcolm At 06:35 PM 2/21/07 -0500, you wrote: I have run about 30 loads of water through my distiller and still it has a strange taste to it. Does anyone know how to change the taste so it's H2O? I filter it after with a charcoal filter and still yucky. I've cleaned it with vinegar and there is no buildup or anything. It's clean as a whistle. Will this taste eventually go away......... maybe after the 100th batch? Doris It's a Genesis 3000 All new Yahoo! Mail Get news delivered. Enjoy RSS feeds right on your Mail page. Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. 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