Hi,

I like David's slim scrollbar, I think it's more attractive than the usual 
windows toolbar.
I also agree with David's point that a standard window toolbar may influence 
people away from realizing that they can scroll a Timeline along the time axis. 

My 2 cents on the issue are:
1) The scrollbar should always be visible if there are more events than can be 
shown on the available tracks. It should be usable as a handle for moving the 
Timeline since its affordance is to act as a handle.
(Affordance is a UI term. An object's affordance is the behavior that we expect 
from an object, given its appearance and context.)

2) I think the bouncing off the top and bottom of the band effect is great for 
when the touch gesture is used on an iPhone, iTouch, or some of the newer Macs. 
But having it occur as the result of a mouse-interaction doesn't feel right to 
me. I'd appreciate some way to turn that behavior off and I don't recommend it 
as a default (except when the browser has a touch interface).

Note that Timeline works pretty well out of the box on the iTouch. Enabling the 
Timeline to be scrolled vertically really solves one of the few problems with 
Timeline on an iPhone etc. The only other issue is to change the bubbles' 
show/hide UI when used with an iPhone. That's on my list.

Regards,

Larry




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From: David Huynh <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 12:17:24 AM
Subject: Re: dragging vertically in timelines


David Karger wrote:
> you mean use a native vertical scrollbar?  That would seem to create a
> "mixed metaphor" ui; 
That was one of the reasons I didn't want to use a native vertical 
scrollbar.

> i am guessing you can come up with a better
> consistent metaphor. It took me quite a while to notice the vertical
> scrollbar, and I'm puzzled why it is "read only".
>  
The intention is that it's only an indicator, and the body of the band 
is the interactor.

I think people ain't used to scrolling horizontally as much, so if 
vertical scrolling were any more emphasized than it is, then that might 
totally inhibit any hint that horizontal scrolling is possible. (A 
native vertical scrollbar would really emphasize vertical scrolling.) 
But I could be wrong.

> farfetched, but what if you made the timeline into a "barrel" that
> rolled away at the top and bottom (images shrinking) to indicate there
> is more present?
>  
"Barrel" like this?
    http://z.about.com/d/ipod/1/0/e/3/-/-/iphone_gallery_10.jpg
I can add some gradients.

David


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