I've updated the trunk to fix #1
http://trunk.simile-widgets.org/timeline/examples/compact-painter/compact-painter.html
Let me know how it feels.
Larry, if you have some time, I'd be grateful for some help on
implementing your #2 point. It's been a while since I touch all the
settings in Timeline and don't remember how they propagate. After that,
maybe we should consider a 2.4 release.
David
David Huynh wrote:
> OK, sounds like we have consensus... I'll implement them when I get a
> chance.
>
> David
>
> John Callahan wrote:
>
>> I totally agree with both of Larry's cents. Items 1) and 2) as Larry
>> described them would work very well for my applications.
>>
>> - John
>>
>>
>>
>> Larry Kluger wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I like David's slim scrollbar, I think it's more attractive than the
>>> usual windows toolbar.
>>> I also agree with David's point that a standard window toolbar may
>>> influence people away from realizing that they can scroll a Timeline
>>> along the time axis.
>>>
>>> My 2 cents on the issue are:
>>> 1) The scrollbar should always be visible if there are more events
>>> than can be shown on the available tracks. It should be usable as a
>>> handle for moving the Timeline since its affordance is to act as a handle.
>>> (Affordance is a UI term. An object's affordance is the behavior that
>>> we expect from an object, given its appearance and context.)
>>>
>>> 2) I think the bouncing off the top and bottom of the band effect is
>>> great for when the touch gesture is used on an iPhone, iTouch, or some
>>> of the newer Macs. But having it occur as the result of a
>>> mouse-interaction doesn't feel right to me. I'd appreciate some way to
>>> turn that behavior off and I don't recommend it as a default (except
>>> when the browser has a touch interface).
>>>
>>> Note that Timeline works pretty well out of the box on the iTouch.
>>> Enabling the Timeline to be scrolled vertically really solves one of
>>> the few problems with Timeline on an iPhone etc. The only other issue
>>> is to change the bubbles' show/hide UI when used with an iPhone.
>>> That's on my list.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Larry
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> *From:* David Huynh <[email protected]>
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2009 12:17:24 AM
>>> *Subject:* Re: dragging vertically in timelines
>>>
>>>
>>> David Karger wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> you mean use a native vertical scrollbar? That would seem to create a
>>>> "mixed metaphor" ui;
>>>>
>>>>
>>> That was one of the reasons I didn't want to use a native vertical
>>> scrollbar.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> i am guessing you can come up with a better
>>>> consistent metaphor. It took me quite a while to notice the vertical
>>>> scrollbar, and I'm puzzled why it is "read only".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> The intention is that it's only an indicator, and the body of the band
>>> is the interactor.
>>>
>>> I think people ain't used to scrolling horizontally as much, so if
>>> vertical scrolling were any more emphasized than it is, then that might
>>> totally inhibit any hint that horizontal scrolling is possible. (A
>>> native vertical scrollbar would really emphasize vertical scrolling.)
>>> But I could be wrong.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> farfetched, but what if you made the timeline into a "barrel" that
>>>> rolled away at the top and bottom (images shrinking) to indicate there
>>>> is more present?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> "Barrel" like this?
>>> http://z.about.com/d/ipod/1/0/e/3/-/-/iphone_gallery_10.jpg
>>> I can add some gradients.
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> >
>
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