Hi David, Re: add to theme. Will do.
Thanks, Larry ________________________________ From: David Huynh <dfhu...@alum.mit.edu> To: simile-widgets@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 2:08:32 AM Subject: Re: dragging vertically in timelines I've updated the trunk to fix #1 http://trunk.simile-widgets.org/timeline/examples/compact-painter/compact-painter.html Let me know how it feels. Larry, if you have some time, I'd be grateful for some help on implementing your #2 point. It's been a while since I touch all the settings in Timeline and don't remember how they propagate. After that, maybe we should consider a 2.4 release. David David Huynh wrote: > OK, sounds like we have consensus... I'll implement them when I get a > chance. > > David > > John Callahan wrote: > >> I totally agree with both of Larry's cents. Items 1) and 2) as Larry >> described them would work very well for my applications. >> >> - John >> >> >> >> Larry Kluger wrote: >> >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I like David's slim scrollbar, I think it's more attractive than the >>> usual windows toolbar. >>> I also agree with David's point that a standard window toolbar may >>> influence people away from realizing that they can scroll a Timeline >>> along the time axis. >>> >>> My 2 cents on the issue are: >>> 1) The scrollbar should always be visible if there are more events >>> than can be shown on the available tracks. It should be usable as a >>> handle for moving the Timeline since its affordance is to act as a handle. >>> (Affordance is a UI term. An object's affordance is the behavior that >>> we expect from an object, given its appearance and context.) >>> >>> 2) I think the bouncing off the top and bottom of the band effect is >>> great for when the touch gesture is used on an iPhone, iTouch, or some >>> of the newer Macs. But having it occur as the result of a >>> mouse-interaction doesn't feel right to me. I'd appreciate some way to >>> turn that behavior off and I don't recommend it as a default (except >>> when the browser has a touch interface). >>> >>> Note that Timeline works pretty well out of the box on the iTouch. >>> Enabling the Timeline to be scrolled vertically really solves one of >>> the few problems with Timeline on an iPhone etc. The only other issue >>> is to change the bubbles' show/hide UI when used with an iPhone. >>> That's on my list. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Larry >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> *From:* David Huynh <dfhu...@alum.mit.edu> >>> *To:* simile-widgets@googlegroups.com >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2009 12:17:24 AM >>> *Subject:* Re: dragging vertically in timelines >>> >>> >>> David Karger wrote: >>> >>> >>>> you mean use a native vertical scrollbar? That would seem to create a >>>> "mixed metaphor" ui; >>>> >>>> >>> That was one of the reasons I didn't want to use a native vertical >>> scrollbar. >>> >>> >>> >>>> i am guessing you can come up with a better >>>> consistent metaphor. It took me quite a while to notice the vertical >>>> scrollbar, and I'm puzzled why it is "read only". >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> The intention is that it's only an indicator, and the body of the band >>> is the interactor. >>> >>> I think people ain't used to scrolling horizontally as much, so if >>> vertical scrolling were any more emphasized than it is, then that might >>> totally inhibit any hint that horizontal scrolling is possible. (A >>> native vertical scrollbar would really emphasize vertical scrolling.) >>> But I could be wrong. >>> >>> >>> >>>> farfetched, but what if you made the timeline into a "barrel" that >>>> rolled away at the top and bottom (images shrinking) to indicate there >>>> is more present? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> "Barrel" like this? >>> http://z.about.com/d/ipod/1/0/e/3/-/-/iphone_gallery_10.jpg >>> I can add some gradients. >>> >>> David >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "SIMILE Widgets" group. To post to this group, send email to simile-widgets@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to simile-widgets+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/simile-widgets?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
