I do like the way the vertical scrollbar feels. Looks good. Two quick notes...
- for styling, I see both scrollbar divs have classes (timeline-band-scrollbar and timeline-band-scrollbar-thumb). However, only the outside div has an ID (timeline-band-scrollbar-0) Does it make sense for the inner/thumb div to also have an ID assigned to it? I'm not really sure if an ID would be required for most things, but I do know that getElementById tends to come up a lot in js coding. - Just a thought... when you pan to the left or right, until there are very few to no events displayed on the timeline, should the vertical scrollbar change size (extend) to the full height of the band? It seems that the scrollbar keeps it's dimensions based on the thickest part of the timeline. - John ************************************************** John Callahan Geospatial Application Developer Delaware Geological Survey, University of Delaware 227 Academy St, Newark DE 19716-7501 Tel: (302) 831-3584 Email: [email protected] http://www.dgs.udel.edu ************************************************** David Huynh wrote: > I've updated the trunk to fix #1 > > http://trunk.simile-widgets.org/timeline/examples/compact-painter/compact-painter.html > Let me know how it feels. > > Larry, if you have some time, I'd be grateful for some help on > implementing your #2 point. It's been a while since I touch all the > settings in Timeline and don't remember how they propagate. After that, > maybe we should consider a 2.4 release. > > David > > David Huynh wrote: > >> OK, sounds like we have consensus... I'll implement them when I get a >> chance. >> >> David >> >> John Callahan wrote: >> >> >>> I totally agree with both of Larry's cents. Items 1) and 2) as Larry >>> described them would work very well for my applications. >>> >>> - John >>> >>> >>> >>> Larry Kluger wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I like David's slim scrollbar, I think it's more attractive than the >>>> usual windows toolbar. >>>> I also agree with David's point that a standard window toolbar may >>>> influence people away from realizing that they can scroll a Timeline >>>> along the time axis. >>>> >>>> My 2 cents on the issue are: >>>> 1) The scrollbar should always be visible if there are more events >>>> than can be shown on the available tracks. It should be usable as a >>>> handle for moving the Timeline since its affordance is to act as a handle. >>>> (Affordance is a UI term. An object's affordance is the behavior that >>>> we expect from an object, given its appearance and context.) >>>> >>>> 2) I think the bouncing off the top and bottom of the band effect is >>>> great for when the touch gesture is used on an iPhone, iTouch, or some >>>> of the newer Macs. But having it occur as the result of a >>>> mouse-interaction doesn't feel right to me. I'd appreciate some way to >>>> turn that behavior off and I don't recommend it as a default (except >>>> when the browser has a touch interface). >>>> >>>> Note that Timeline works pretty well out of the box on the iTouch. >>>> Enabling the Timeline to be scrolled vertically really solves one of >>>> the few problems with Timeline on an iPhone etc. The only other issue >>>> is to change the bubbles' show/hide UI when used with an iPhone. >>>> That's on my list. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Larry >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> *From:* David Huynh <[email protected]> >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2009 12:17:24 AM >>>> *Subject:* Re: dragging vertically in timelines >>>> >>>> >>>> David Karger wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> you mean use a native vertical scrollbar? That would seem to create a >>>>> "mixed metaphor" ui; >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> That was one of the reasons I didn't want to use a native vertical >>>> scrollbar. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> i am guessing you can come up with a better >>>>> consistent metaphor. It took me quite a while to notice the vertical >>>>> scrollbar, and I'm puzzled why it is "read only". >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> The intention is that it's only an indicator, and the body of the band >>>> is the interactor. >>>> >>>> I think people ain't used to scrolling horizontally as much, so if >>>> vertical scrolling were any more emphasized than it is, then that might >>>> totally inhibit any hint that horizontal scrolling is possible. (A >>>> native vertical scrollbar would really emphasize vertical scrolling.) >>>> But I could be wrong. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> farfetched, but what if you made the timeline into a "barrel" that >>>>> rolled away at the top and bottom (images shrinking) to indicate there >>>>> is more present? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> "Barrel" like this? >>>> http://z.about.com/d/ipod/1/0/e/3/-/-/iphone_gallery_10.jpg >>>> I can add some gradients. >>>> >>>> David >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "SIMILE Widgets" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/simile-widgets?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
