On 08/02/02 at 12:26, Thomas Tempelmann wrote:

> Dave Pooser wrote:
> 
> >Right, but in Classic as in OS 9, the lack of protected memory means
> >force-quitting an app may (in my experience *does*) make the entire OS
> >unstable until it's restarted.
> 
> Good point. Then what I'll try is to force-quit SIMS, then normally
> restart Classic if possible, and only if that freezes, too, force-
> restart Classic.

In my experience, force-quitting a Classic app (using command-option-esc)
also force-quits the Classic Environment, causing whatever collateral
damage that might entail to any other Classic apps that may also be running
at the time. I wouldn't think it would be a good strategy to use routinely
for stopping mis-behaving applications.

> Now all I have to figure out is how to force-restart a Classic app.

I don't think you can do that with individual Classic apps. From what I can
see (from the output of top and ps), as far as the OS X is concerned they
all run as part of the Classic Environment process, all sharing the same
memory space with the same pid. IOW, OS X doesn't seem to be aware of
Classic apps as separate processes. You should be able to send a 'quit'
Apple Event to individual Classic apps, which should work for apps that are
running normally. But if an app is crashed/frozen in some way, it may very
well not respond to the AE.

On a broader note, running SIMS in Classic under OS X is not supported, so
it's really a kludge to begin with and I, for one, wouldn't feel
comfortable doing it for any sort of mission-critical installation. Better
to either run SIMS on its own older, inexpensive OS 8/9 machine or, if you
need to run your mail server on an OS X box, use something that's *nix/OS X
native instead of SIMS.

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