Another wacky thread developing. Do we need more evidence ? It's better
to realize SIPS is dead-end.

It may be far fetched idea, Cost of Dealing with two URI (SIP/SIPS) for
printing on Business Cards, SIP Directories etc. etc...  for coming
generations to use it ... Where we can deal with single URI. Vendors who
have implemented, I request you to give up, and let us work on the clean
complete solution... 

This thread is just talking about TLS. What about DTLS ? SIPS is broken
with respect to secure protocol development. It is no future proof
there.  People who don't buy future proofing, looks to me they wrote the
software with Y2K bug.

Thx
Samir

PS: Sorry Dean, I cannot check my temptation on the hunting as dog is
barking again and again.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Juha Heinanen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 11:44 AM
>To: Audet, Francois (SC100:3055)
>Cc: [email protected]; Keith Drage; Alan Johnston; Peterson, Jon; 
>Dean Willis
>Subject: RE: [Sip] draft-ietf-sip-sips-03.txt: Closing of Opened issues
>
>Francois Audet writes:
>
> > It is RFC 3261 that deprecated transport=tls, not my draft.
>
>yes, but as i told, transport=tls is heavily used for good 
>reasons and if might make sense to deprecate the deprecation.  
>if you want to bring the issue up in your draft, we can also 
>make that change (since the draft makes changed anyway).
>
> > The reason why my draft talks about it is that, as you 
>mention, it  > is clearly something that was missed in the 
>industry, causing  > interoperability problems. 
>
>no, it was not missed by the industry.  industry is not that stupid.
>transport=tls is used, because there is VALUE in using it.
>
>-- juha
>
>
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