> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Dean Willis
> Sent: 17 July 2008 20:03
> To: Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
> Cc: SIP IETF; Cullen Jennings
> Subject: [Sip] saml proposal
> 
> 
> On Jul 17, 2008, at 1:50 PM, Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - 
> FI/Espoo) wrote:
> 
> >
> > If I ignore the ongoing SIP Identity discussions then I 
> could finish  
> > the
> > document next week.
> >
> 
> 
> Would it be reasonable to write the SAML doc against RFC 4474,  
> documenting  the issues with RFC 4474 that you've raised, and then  
> publish as experimental? Then if we ever get Identity 
> revised, we can  
> come back to the SAML document. And it gets one more thing off our  
> plate for now.
[JRE] Sounds reasonable. I know SAML is becoming important in the
applications world and it seems very likely that integration with SIP
will become important sometime in the future. However, I don't see the
drivers at present.

> 
> And I'd still like to have a SAML tutorial.  We've had lunchtime  
> tutorials on things like XCAP in the past that were well 
> attended. All  
> we need is a sponsor (asking people to pay for buffet lunch doesn't  
> work) or a facility that is amenable to "brown bag" lunches in a  
> conference room. And of course, we need somebody to organize and  
> present said material . . .
[JRE] I would try to attend such a session. One thing I am missing from
the draft is a set of real life use cases - I guess these were in RFC
4484, but something to link the two together would be good, i.e., how
exactly SIP/SAML would operate to solve each of these. Maybe it is just
me, but if you were to explain that in a tutorial it would be helpful.

John
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